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re: 1,600 scientists, including two Nobel laureates, declare climate 'emergency' a myth

Posted on 8/30/23 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 6:39 pm to
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I'm still waiting for your response to anything I have said relating to the article and my qualifications.

Already responded and you, I only respond to dumb FCKs when they cease their dumb FCKRY.. your qualifications are lacking if the response you think you have made in this thread demonstrates them
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15852 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:40 pm to
You seem like someone who is pretending to be smart. I doubt you were actually an engineer OR a scientist... so you should show proof...otherwise I think you just might be a geriatric insanity case with internet access in a mental hospital.

Also gramps...if you need help with anything computer related let me know. I know you old retards typically don't know the difference between right and left click.


Also, I have been trying to stick to the substance of what I was arguing originally, but you can't seem to do anything but throw blind insults, so....yeah.

This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59804 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:41 pm to
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It is settled. It is real.


You won’t appear a single Time in this thread again. You’re a troll account.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21130 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:44 pm to
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But this summer was hotttttter than ever!!!



And next Summer will be even hotter according to my far leftist brother. Pfffft!
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56269 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:11 pm to
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Remember when that was said about Covid-19 coming from a wet market? They made you embarrass yourself calling other people conspiracy theorists?

Covid-19 originated in the Wuhan Lab
Hunter Biden’s laptop was genuine
Imminent, man-made, catastrophic global warming is a hoax
Trump-Russia collusion was a hoax made up by Hillary Clinton and abetted by Barak Obama.

These are facts that got you deplatformed from facebook, Instagram and Twitter if you posted them.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63598 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:17 pm to
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It is settled. It is real.
Guess we dont' need any more climate scientists. That's great. We can spend money one usefult things.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Guess we dont' need any more climate scientists. That's great. We can spend money one usefult things.

Correct - never did need that trashy propagandist crap
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:16 pm to
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You seem like someone who is pretending to be smart.
I don't pretend.
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I doubt you were actually an engineer OR a scientist... so you should show proof...otherwise I think you just might be a geriatric insanity case with internet access in a mental hospital.
not worthy of any response. You are a moron.

Bet me I was not a engineering analyst at NASA and my work is published in libraries around the world... Bet me I wasnt.

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Also, I have been trying to stick to the substance of what I was arguing originally, but you can't seem to do anything but throw blind insults, so....yeah.
absolute proof of your delusion and lack of any semblance of decency or even being raised right

This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26833 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Since 1880 the Earth has warmed 1 degree, it takes millions of years for climate change to occur, this is bigger bull shite than Covid 1 and Covid 2 and Joe Biden combined.


In the 1800's we were just coming out of the Little Ice Age.

Here are the scientific facts from ice cores.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144210 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:35 pm to
the guy that started this junk science back in 68 with The Population Bomb, Paul R. Ehrlich, is still employed by Stanford.

he is zero for everything with his predications and the government still funds his "research".

Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15852 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:45 pm to
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Bet me I was not a engineering analyst at NASA and my work is published in libraries around the world... Bet me I wasnt.


Again, going back to what I already said, your credentials, even if they weren't fake, has NOTHING to do with my original argument. You just got mad I pointed it out and tried to flex as if it made my basic point less correct .

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Also, I have been trying to stick to the substance of what I was arguing originally, but you can't seem to do anything but throw blind insults, so....yeah.


absolute proof of your delusion and lack of any semblance of decency or even being raised right


You legitimately seem like you can't understand anything I am saying. The post you quoted had nothing that speaks to my decency or not being raised right. Am I just being trolled? FML
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:06 pm to
your original argument was contrived nonsense. It still is.

I understand groups of people vastly more intelligent than yourself - and have for over 45 years, in the highest echelons of advanced analysis and engineering.

Thing is, all of the things you made you silly attacks about is minor in comparison to the rest of the things I have done - which are themselves minor relative to my current personal projects.

I notice your cherry picking of my statements regarding yourself. Cheap lowlife tactic, just like picking out 10 or 15 of the 1600 from Australia, which is basically a cow country.

Again, sure seems you are nothing but a moron.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15852 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:26 pm to
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I understand groups of people vastly more intelligent than yourself - and have for over 45 years, in the highest


Again, that's great...so how was my original point incorrect? How was it contrived nonsense? Do you even remember what is was? Can you tell we what is was? It should be pretty simple.

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Thing is, all of the things you made you silly attacks about is minor in comparison to the rest of the things I have done - which are themselves minor relative to my current personal projects.


you should re-read this to yourself

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I notice your cherry picking of my statements regarding yourself. Cheap lowlife tactic, just like picking out 10 or 15 of the 1600 from Australia, which is basically a cow country


So you don't know what my original argument was...I absolutely cherry picked those that were not actual scientists, to prove my point, and they were NUMEROUS. The OP said 1600 scientists declared climate emergency a myth. There is nowhere near 1600 scientists on this list. Prove me wrong on this PLEASE!! Hopefully without your insults.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3951 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:36 pm to
The Earth's climate is constantly changing. As such the term 'climate change' is real and is happening, but the focus should be pinning changes to human influences. There is not any data out there that can support this. And the human influence piece is what the left has invested in.Changing terms such as high pressure systems to 'heat domes' is just one example.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted by CutTheCord
Texas
Member since Aug 2022
741 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:57 pm to




99.9% of everything you hear on the news is fake. Lies.

The climate change crisis is fake. It's nothing more than a money scam. Quit sucking the Governments teats.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:58 pm to
1,600 "scientists" although what are their qualifications, especially as it concerns climate studies? Somebody with a B.A. in Biology and works in a lab doing employment drug screenings can still call themselves scientists but what is their opinions on climate science truly worth? And

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The most recent to sign is Nobel Prize winner Dr. John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics.


Likewise what does a physicist who deals in quantum mechanics truly matter as far as climate science is concerned? The verdict is still that the vast, vast, vast majority of climate scientists (and hell if you want to throw them in scientists in general) still hold the opinion that climate change is a real issue and humans are contributing to it via greenhouse gas emissions. I’ll trust their word on it.

What I’ve never understood is how this became such a polarizing and political issue. Now every bubba out there is absolutely convinced it’s a hoax and refuses to listen to the insights of the experts who actually study this and instead seek out anything that might confirm their opinion for them no matter how misguided and wrong it might be. And even worse the people who put out propaganda trying to convince the public not to believe the experts and largely it’s over financial reasons like not wanting regulations and the people who can’t see through it and gobble it up.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:04 pm to
Here, after two seconds of looking. It’s basically what I said above: LINK


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Rather, they said, the post seems to be the latest iteration of a broader disinformation campaign that for decades has peddled a series of arguments long discredited by the scientific community at large. Furthermore, the experts told me, the vast majority of the declaration’s signatories have no experience in climate science at all, and the group behind the message—the Climate Intelligence Foundation, or CLINTEL—has well-documented ties to oil money and fossil fuel interest groups.

“Looking at the list of signatories, there are a lot of engineers, medical doctors, and petroleum geologists and almost no actual climate scientists,” said Zeke Hausfather, a longtime research scientist at Berkeley Earth, a non-partisan nonprofit that specializes in analyzing climate data, and the former director of climate and energy programs at the Breakthrough Institute, another independent environmental research firm.

In fact, Ivar Giaever, who has been promoted as a kind of poster child for the declaration in what some believe is meant to give it credibility, won his Nobel with another scientist in 1973 for their discovery of electron tunneling in superconductors, not for anything remotely related to the study of global warming. Other signatories of the petition, as noted by climate journalist Dave Vetter, included at least eight current or former employees of oil giant Shell.


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“There are millions of scientists worldwide, so I’m not sure getting 1,000 people to sign a petition is particularly meaningful,” Hausfather said, “particularly when balanced against the massive scientific agreement around climate change, including the national academies of science in pretty much every major country.”

In fact, the term “massive” in this context could be considered an understatement. A 2013 study found that some 97 percent of peer-reviewed research on climate change was in agreement: rapid climate change is happening beyond what would be considered resulting from natural causes, and humans are largely responsible. And in 2021, another study, this one published in the journal Environmental Research Letters, analyzed 88,125 peer-reviewed studies on climate change and found that a jaw-dropping 99.9 percent of them came to the same conclusion as the 2013 study.



But yeah you baws definitely know the real truth
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 11:06 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:10 pm to
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What do these 1600 scientists have in common?


Not funded by government



The real answer is what they have in common is they by and large aren’t climate scientists.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139692 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:17 pm to
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1,600 scientists, including two Nobel laureates, declare climate 'emergency' a myth
the science is SETTLED
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31551 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:20 pm to
The x axis on your graph is in millions of years. Rather pointless when discussing climate change and human impact.
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