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re: 12th Grade Girls Are Far Less Likely Than Boys To Say They Want To Get Married Someday
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:51 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:51 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Well, we are going to disagree strongly on that point, Cubs.
Holistically, men benefit from marriage more than women.
Again, marriage is a partnership. If one partner doesn't feel up to the homemaking task, the duo works out an alternative. Simple. Done.
There is a reason husband and wife fall into more "traditional" roles though, and it ain't male toxicity. There is a reason kids do better in two-parent households, and it ain't male toxicity. There is a reason being a single parent mother is the biggest US noneducational demographic poverty predictor, and it ain't male toxicity.
There is a reason 25% of female physicians are not working full-time within six years of completing training, compared with less than 5% of men, and it ain't male toxicity. There is a reason women habitually sniff the merchandise at Yankee Candle Shop while men either stay outside or wander around aimlessly. There is a reason women are equally disinterested in men's treks to the hardware store. Men and women are wired differently, Cubs.
Now that absolutely does not mean every man or woman fits the mold. But stereotypes exist for a reason, just as partnerships (marital or otherwise) succeed or fail for a reason.
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:00 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Okay
It’s a common misconception that women only started working outside the home because of modern social movements. In reality, women have worked in many roles for centuries, and the growth of female employment was driven by major economic and social shifts long before recent cultural debates around feminism.
by 1910 about one in four women over age 14 in the United States was earning wages.
quote:And there is the contradiction.
That framing only works if you pretend history started in 1968. For most of history, marriage was an economic necessity for women.
Those two quotes are carelessly antithetical.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:03 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Those two quotes are carelessly antithetical.
How so?
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:09 pm to NC_Tigah
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WTF are we doing?
It's called PUBLIC SCHOOL. School should not be funded by taxpayers.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:14 pm to Tom288
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They have no idea how hard the fricking pendulum is going to snap back as Gen Z men get into power. Some Millennials too, but Gen Z are really waking up and no longer giving a frick about the post-WWII rules based order bullshite.
I have seen no evidence of this
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:20 pm to 4cubbies
quote:For most of history, women were the household breadwinners who then cooked the bread for their men, and children.
How so?
vs
For most of history, marriage was an economic necessity for women.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:21 pm to Masterag
quote:
I have seen no evidence of this
Google "gen z revolts" or "Strawhat Revolutions". Zoomers men, tired of high unemployment and rising costs of living amid media censorship and oppressive regimes, are toppling governments around the globe on a weekly basis lately. They already successfully took down the governments of Nepal, Madagascar, and Kenya. Indonesia, Iran, and Mexico are holding on by a thread. They have successfully thrown out entrenched no-liberal administrations in several European countries and are gaining momentum in Germany, Portugal, and the UK. Zoomer men are done with "modernity".
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:22 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
For most of history, women were the household breadwinners who then cooked the bread for their men, and children.
This was never claimed. Women provided unpaid labor at home with the rest of the family on the family farm. Then they started earning wages during the Industrial Revolution.
quote:This is true.
For most of history, marriage was an economic necessity for women.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:23 pm to Masterag
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:28 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
This thread is an excellent demonstration of why women are choosing to forego marriage to men.
You don't know why that is. The data directly contradicts every reason you give for it.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:29 pm to 4cubbies
quote:But it was, unfortunately.
For most of history, women were the household breadwinners who then cooked the bread for their men, and children.
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This was never claimed.
quote:
t’s a common misconception that women only started working outside the home because of modern social movements. In reality, women have worked in many roles for centuries, and the growth of female employment was driven by major economic and social shifts long before recent cultural debates around feminism.
by 1910 about one in four women over age 14 in the United States was earning wages.
quote:Let's examine that quite factual statement. Women provided unpaid labor at home with the rest of the family on the family farm
Women provided unpaid labor at home with the rest of the family on the family farm. Then they started earning wages during the Industrial Revolution
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Tell it to Elizabeth I.
For most of history, marriage was an economic necessity for women.
This is true.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:51 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:
You don't know why that is. The data directly contradicts every reason you give for it.
Like what, specifically? You may not like this but I have a lot more insight about this than any of the angry and/or befuddled men participating in this thread.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Tell it to Elizabeth I.
I’m sure this wasn’t true for every single individual woman alive at the time . I didn’t think that needed to be stated.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:55 pm to NC_Tigah
Can you bold the section that claimed women were the breadwinners?
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:59 pm to 4cubbies
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And the advice isn't for men to improve themselves to become more palatable to women, it's that men should seek out desperate women in foreign countries with no other options to marry instead.
What makes them desperate, specifically? It’s no secret American women are among the least desirable in the world. Higher quality/value women from foreign lands replacing you doesn’t make those women desperate.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:23 pm to 4cubbies
quote:You claim it as true? I'll happily bold it.
Can you bold the section that claimed women were the breadwinners?
Cubs, I have ZERO issues with acknowledging a woman as the "everything" in a relationship. I have ZERO issues acknowledging individual spousal contributions. The problem you have is not understanding the truth of Brenda Barnes (Pepsi). Look her up.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:32 pm to 4cubbies
quote:"Desperate" is a floating signifier.
men should seek out desperate women in foreign countries
The women being referenced are no more "desperate" than their male counterparts. That is the point. Does a nation's poverty dictate a female's individual worth?
It is the kind of question for which such females might happily answer with an eligible DESIRABLE US dude.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:34 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
You claim it as true? I'll happily bold it.
No! I’m trying to figure out where you got this idea from. Women were not the breadwinners when they worked on the family farm. Or in factories.
I don’t think women are universally and unequivocally everything in every relationship. Women are socialized to absorb male discomfort and we’re socialized to be caretakers. We’re conditioned to “take what you can get.” Men are not.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:48 pm to 4cubbies
How about you bitches absorb earlier death?
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