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$0 of taxpayer money should be spent on private NFL stadiums

Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:23 am
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:23 am
People can shite on the Giants and Jets all they want, but Metlife Stadium in NJ where they play is 100% privately funded. But only them and one other team have stadiums that were 100% privately funded. Every other team is playing in a stadium that was subsidized in part by taxpayers so players making millions of dollars can play there and kneel for the anthem.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 7:31 am
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10854 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:26 am to
St Louis and San Diego had this line of thinking too.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17879 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:27 am to
I pay the stadium tax so i can see monster jam.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:31 am to
Yeah they moved because SD and STL wouldn’t help fund a new stadium. Not surprising considering STL is a dump. Same why Raiders moved to LV.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:32 am to
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$0 of taxpayer money should be spent on private NFL stadiums

Overall I agree but the taxpayers of the cities/states should decide their own fate.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83523 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:34 am to
as long as the city allows a vote on the matter, I have no issues with the stadiums being subsidized
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:37 am to
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Overall I agree but the taxpayers of the cities/states should decide their own fate.


That's the issue! It's not only taxpayers that get to decide. They hold public votes and non taxpayers get a say as well. That's actually what's wrong with the entire country.
I want to help every single individual that needs help...but I DO NOT want that individual involved in problem solving voting while receiving the benefits
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:39 am to
Well if the majority of people want it, sure, the subsidies should be proportional to the people who actually want it. If people want tax payer money to go to a stadium, then they should be burdened with an additional tax; not random Joe who is working hard to pay the bills and doesn’t care about football
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:40 am to
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That's the issue! It's not only taxpayers that get to decide. They hold public votes and non taxpayers get a say as well. That's actually what's wrong with the entire country.
I want to help every single individual that needs help...but I DO NOT want that individual involved in problem solving voting while receiving the benefits



The main problem of democracy is defined by the bold and underlined portion!

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83523 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:40 am to
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Well if the majority of people want it, sure, the subsidies should be proportional to the people who actually want it. If people want tax payer money to go to a stadium, then they should be burdened with an additional tax; not random Joe who is working hard to pay the bills and doesn’t care about football


this would be impossible to implement and would completely change our entire tax structure
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:43 am to
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That's the issue! It's not only taxpayers that get to decide. They hold public votes and non taxpayers get a say as well. That's actually what's wrong with the entire country.


That's the problem with democracy (one of the problems, should say). Every voter has the same voting power, including people who are voting illegally, or who live on the taxes of other voters.


I propose a new system, where people aren't forced to fund anything against their will, and all projects have to clear the market in order to proceed.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 7:46 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Well if the majority of people want it, sure, the subsidies should be proportional to the people who actually want it. If people want tax payer money to go to a stadium, then they should be burdened with an additional tax; not random Joe who is working hard to pay the bills and doesn’t care about football


You are describing a free market.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:45 am to
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That's the problem with democracy


We are not a democracy. We are a Republic.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:48 am to
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That's the problem with democracy


We are not a democracy. We are a Republic.





So all those representatives just up and appointed themselves, right? Not sure what point you think you are making.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18054 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:51 am to
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We are not a democracy. We are a Republic.


In the context of stadium referendums, it is a democracy.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:53 am to
It should be up to the municipality and state.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71071 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:57 am to
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kneel for the anthem


Why didn't you just lead with this? It's really all you wanted to melt about.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:08 am to
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So all those representatives just up and appointed themselves, right? Not sure what point you think you are making.


I'm not making a point. I'm stating a fact. Our country is run as a Constitutional Republic. Now those officials are elected in via democratic process, but we are a representative form of government.

Not everything is a "gotcha" moment.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71071 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:09 am to


If you're going to play wordfrick games, do it right. He didn't say we are a democracy.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9255 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:20 am to
NFL teams that receive taxpayer aid should pay back a share of its profits to the states and municipalities that support them. All NFL teams are profitable. It is ridiculous how they fleece taxpayers to build billion dollar stadiums for teams valued at two billion dollars or more.

I have no problem with taxpayers making investments in teams, as long as they get a return. And I mean an ACTUAL return, not an “economic impact” indirect return. The team wants actual dollars, they should return actual dollars. That’s fair.
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