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S+W Walther PPK/S Opinions? (Update Pg. 2)
Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:17 pm
Reviews seem to be very polarizing about the gun--half of owners bestowing huge respect and the other half calling it junk.
Too much trouble for a novice? Too unreliable for home defense/ccw?
Too much trouble for a novice? Too unreliable for home defense/ccw?
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 5:17 pm
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:22 pm to shutterspeed
My mom has both of those. She likes the PPS better. It has jammed a few times on her at the range, but this was due to her using really cheap ammo. Feed it right and it's a very good gun.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:26 pm to shutterspeed
It was a fine pistol for its time and it will serve you just as fine today. But there are better sidearms available today.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:45 pm to Cold Pizza
It was a better firearm when it was still Walther.
They are not fun to shoot however. It has a very snappy recoil and it would really dig into the web between thumb and finger.
They are not fun to shoot however. It has a very snappy recoil and it would really dig into the web between thumb and finger.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:48 pm to bbvdd
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They are not fun to shoot however. It has a very snappy recoil and it would really dig into the web between thumb and finger.
I've read a lot about "Walther bite." Does Smith and Wesson's extended tang not solve this issue, though?
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:22 pm to shutterspeed
I have the gun. I like it. I don't carry it and probably never would. It is heavy for a .380.
I have never had a FTF, FTE, etc. Would I trust it as a house gun? Disregarding caliber arguments, yes.
Outside of "biting", it is a pleasure to shoot. The trigger is very crisp and is highly accurate.
I have never had a FTF, FTE, etc. Would I trust it as a house gun? Disregarding caliber arguments, yes.
Outside of "biting", it is a pleasure to shoot. The trigger is very crisp and is highly accurate.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:30 pm to kkille1lsu
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Outside of "biting", it is a pleasure to shoot.
Seems like that'd take a lot of the joy out of shooting, though. Have you tried any alternate ways to grip it?
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The trigger is very crisp and is highly accurate.
So the initial DA pull isn't that much of a bitch?
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:37 pm to shutterspeed
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Seems like that'd take a lot of the joy out of shooting, though. Have you tried any alternate ways to grip it?
Definitely. You only make that mistake once. Lower your grip, unless you have really fat hands.
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So the initial DA pull isn't that much of a bitch?
It is heavy, but is easily remedied by pulling the hammer back. The biggest pain about the gun is racking the slide.
Like I said, I like the gun, but as a novice I would go in another direction.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:41 pm to kkille1lsu
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Like I said, I like the gun, but as a novice I would go in another direction.
Do you think the PPK would be more manageable in .32?
What are your thoughts on the Bersa Thunders, CZ83, and Sig P232?
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:50 pm to shutterspeed
Sig>CZ/PPS>Bersa
Why so set on .380?
There is nothing that is not manageable. There as so many other great guns on the market.
If you want it for nostalgia reasons or for looks, like I did, wait for and keep an eye out for a German made.
Why so set on .380?
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more manageable
There is nothing that is not manageable. There as so many other great guns on the market.
If you want it for nostalgia reasons or for looks, like I did, wait for and keep an eye out for a German made.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:59 pm to kkille1lsu
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Why so set on .380?
Had gotten myself really interested in the PPK. When I read about all of the problems people were having with it, though, the Bersas and Sigs were often mentioned as better alternatives.
I'm a newb to shooting and just thought the .380 would be a good caliber to start out on. And I like the look of a lot of the .380s I've seen.
This post was edited on 8/3/12 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:00 pm to shutterspeed
If you want a .380, get a Ruger LCP. If you want a pistol the size of a PPK, get an XDs.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:05 pm to Cold Pizza
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If you want a .380, get a Ruger LCP
I'm not as fond of the Ruger's aesthetics as much as the PPK. I would probably just go ahead and look at the Glock 19s in that case.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:10 pm to shutterspeed
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Sig P232
Out of the ones you listed, this is the best.
I'd recommend an HK P2000 in 9mm
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:12 pm to shutterspeed
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.380 would be a good caliber to start out on.
IMO, not really. Ammo is expensive and can sometimes be hard to find.
If you are set on getting a .380. I would buy the Sig and its not even close. Then a German made PPK or PPK/S, then the CZ. There is nothing wrong with the Bersa, but you are already willing to buy a much better quality gun.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:18 pm to kkille1lsu
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There is nothing wrong with the Bersa, but you are already willing to buy a much better quality gun.
Well, I don't know that I'd actually go out and pop for a Sig right out the gate.
That's why I don't so much mind looking at the Bersas. They seem to have a great reputation, are very affordable, and now they're coming out in a nickel finish and in 9mm. I've read about the expense of .380 and .32 ammo and that is definitely a concern. Maybe I should look at a Bersa in 9mm?Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:23 pm to shutterspeed
I think you will be happy with a Bersa .380.
You lose that style when you move to a 9mm.
You lose that style when you move to a 9mm.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:26 pm to kkille1lsu
Planning to check out a gun show this weekend. I know where to direct my attention now. Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:26 pm to kkille1lsu
I spent a lot money on my first handgun and ended up selling it for a hefty loss.
Just keep an eye on .380 ammo on sale.
Just keep an eye on .380 ammo on sale.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 7:41 am to shutterspeed
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I'm not as fond of the Ruger's aesthetics as much as the PPK.
Do you intend to use this as a ccw? If so I think function trumps aesthetics.
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