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Zero Turn Recs for Hills/Slopes

Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:01 pm
I've been researching zero turn mowers for a bit and have a few I'm looking at (Gravely, Hustler, Cub Cadet) but I can't find anything on how they perform on slopes and hills. I live on a little over an acre but my lot is shaped like a baseball diamond with the front having a large 15-20 degree drainage ditch along it for probably 120 yards. I can't find anything definitive on performance on that terrain for a residential zero turn. I'm trying to stick under 5K, if anyone has any experience they could share on some good brands for that I would appreciate it.
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:12 pm to
Hustler/big dog
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:21 pm to
I have a hustler and love it. Better than my old Cub. I was torn between two models when I bought the hustler, with one having more aggressive tires. My lot is relatively flat so I went with the less aggressive tires. May be worth it for you to look into tire options for each. All of them are going to be able to mow the slope under normal conditions.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:10 pm to
Have a 10 year old Gravley ZT42 with a hilly yard, maybe 25' change over my lot. Doing it again, I might have bought a tractor style. Zero turn on the hills are tricky and one wrong move and your skidding and sliding leaving a nice bare spot from the tire stripping the grass. Really takes some finesse and it is the sole reason my 13 year old son hasn't started to mow yet. I can mess up in a hurry, so I know he'll leave the yard without any grass left.
Posted by johnnyrocket
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:46 pm to
Steering wheel zero turns.
Cub Cadet makes them from their residential line all the way to their commercial line.
They are the only mfg that has a professional zero turn unit that can handle slopes up to 25 degrees without slipping.
Basically, your transmissions and front tires work together in unison on a steering wheel unit. You have more stability on slopes versus a lap bar.
Sell them over lap bar units at one of my locations which is in a hilly area. I don’t even stock lap bars at that location. Other brands just slip as lap bars are not made for slopes.

I would recommend SX 50” residential line in start in $3k go up low $4k ballpark or Z force SX.

RZT have similar transmission as a entry level zero turn with a fab deck except 42” is stamped.
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Z force SZ is probably beefier than you want and has ZT2800 transmission jumping $4k to $5k. Overkill for what you want.
They make them in 48,50, 54, 60.
Usually find them in the 50 and 60
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This is one on the entry level professional model. It is way more unit than what you need.
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This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 10:05 pm
Posted by winntiger
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:13 pm to
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Have a 10 year old Gravley ZT42 with a hilly yard, maybe 25' change over my lot. Doing it again, I might have bought a tractor style. Zero turn on the hills are tricky and one wrong move and your skidding and sliding leaving a nice bare spot from the tire stripping the grass. Really takes some finesse and it is the sole reason my 13 year old son hasn't started to mow yet. I can mess up in a hurry, so I know he'll leave the yard without any grass left.


We use this mower at the camp and this week discussed selling it bc it does so poorly on the hills. Slides too much, switching to lawn tractor.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2917 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:13 pm to
Lugged rear tires, they look like tractor tires. This is what you need for slopes. There's not much about any brand that will make a difference, so pick whichever one you like. Just put lugged tires on it. The drawback is that you will need to be more careful to avoid spinning or dragging the rear wheels. This is less of a concern on thick turf.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 9:15 pm
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:18 pm to
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Zero Turn Recs for Hills/Slopes


No opinion on the mower but this type tire works really good on side slopes.





Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:19 pm to
I don't know about hills but I just bought a Grasshopper with a front deck and LOVE it.

It is very fast and you can run that deck under things like shrubs and fences. The deck will actually drop down if you want to stick it down a ditch bank or something. You can turn the entire deck up to service the blades too. They say with a 72 inch deck it will mow 6 acres an hour!! I have the 52 inch and mowed over an acre in 35 minutes Sunday.

They are expensive but are very good quality and that front deck is a game changer. I use a Hustler zero turn at my house and it is fine but not even close to the Grasshopper I use at a farm property.

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I got this one but the less expensive one would be fine too. The difference is the size of the tires and shaft drive vs belt drive.

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This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted by johnnyrocket
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:20 pm to
Don’t waste your money just replacing tires on a lap bar zero turn.
Problem is there is no stability or control of the front tires. You will end up pumping one lap bar more than the other to keep from slipping.

All a tractor doing is controlling the front tires similar to a steering wheel zero turn. Steering wheel zero turn will just do it faster versus a tractor.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Phil09
North Mississippi
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:24 pm to
We have an older Hustler FasTrak 54" which has been a great machine and I will buy one again if ours ever wears out. It cuts well, very reliable and easy to operate. The recommendation from Hustler on this particular machine is not to exceed 15 degree slopes. We have put ours on slopes more than this but you must be very careful. It is easy to find yourself on an uncontrolled ride down the hill - as mentioned earlier. NOT FUN. Mowing straight up and down helps and make sure the grass is dry.

You raise a very valid question - I would look at the slope spec's for any ZTR you consider.

Posted by johnnyrocket
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:35 pm to
Lap bars are not designed for slopes plus moving oil to one side of the engine block can cause problems.

This one can do over a 25 degree slope but the engine only recommended for up to a 25 degree slope. That why it is it says max slope 25 degrees.
Cub Cadet 972 SD
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This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:01 pm to
Grasshopper 729 with 61" deck & Traction lug tires. The side of the driveway and the road ditch are so steep (approx.33 degrees) that If the grass is too wet you will slide downhill sideways. They can only be cut when it is fairly dry but it works great then.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9387 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:25 pm to
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I don't know about hills but I just bought a Grasshopper with a front deck


I also have a front deck that I use around my pond and it works great. John Deere 1445 4x4. Paid $4000 for it from my local dealer because guys are going to zero turn and they could not get rid of it. Only had 800 hours on engine. I'm sure that Yanmar diesel has a lot of life left in it.

Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
3737 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:31 pm to
I’ve got a 15 year old abused Gravely.
Can’t kill that sum bitch
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 11:11 pm to
Thanks for the input everyone!

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Cub Cadet 972 SD

That's one of the only videos I could find of a Zero turn slope review. Then I checked the price tag, wowza! I'm guessing you have a couple outdoor equipment stores? Can you elaborate on the steering wheel versus lap bar benefits on hilly terrain? Are the benefits just local to Cub cadet or other brands as well? I hadn't considered a steering wheel zero turn.
Posted by johnnyrocket
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:26 am to
Cub has the patent on their steering wheel system. It is designed to control the front wheels and also make the transmissions work in unison.

The residential unit RZT SX line in the $3k area some closer $4k for your use is all you need. The upper level stuff showing that they are in this category.

I did try this will all the units I stocked just for curiosity.
An equivalent lap bar versus the same unit except with a steering wheel the steering wheel will beat it hands down. You have less fighting of the front caster wheels. Everything runs as one unit. It has its place on hilly terrain or with people who cannot use or do not like lap bars.

On hills the design to keep the front where the caster wheels are from dropping.

I find in areas where there is flat lands my locations sell a few steering wheel units to older people, women, families with multiple users, or people who have limited use of hands due to stroke/ injuries. I have friends who are dealers in Louisiana that sell a few as they deal with slopes around rivers or people who do not want to deal with lap bars.

In hilly areas that where I sell 90% of these versus even your higher level lawn tractors.
Time is again money or for residential customers time spend with family.

Of course use common sense the residential a good unit 2 acres ballpark or less and you are not cutting sharper slopes which a lawn tractor will not do also. What the person is asking above it is fine for most of his application and the price is right. This is a great solution for him.

My number one selling category Z force steering wheel units as where my dealer is that sells them has more larger property owners. For someone with an acre they are buying way more unit than they need. This is 2 to 4 acre machine.

I do sell some Pro Z steering wheel units that mostly to landscapers that cut 90% hilly areas. Lap bar units will not cut it. Again, time is money for these professionals.

Pro and ProZ 972 that competing in the Professional or municipal category. You are not selling these everyday as the price tag reflects that. In its category it does just as well as solutions from other brands which cost well over $20k. This solution right under $20k and been very solid unit. The agencies that bought them love them and done well which is sewage pond levees, levees, parks dept with hilly areas that required osha certified units per a certain slope, and even municipal agencies in hilly areas. In those situations it is an easy sell as it has a great price tag and been a solid unit. I sell other solutions while this solution sold the best and have less service issues after the sale.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 6:48 am
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:17 am to
Here a video of the z force SX which is my top seller. I think a little bigger than you need.
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Residential unit review
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This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 7:29 am
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:55 am to
I have a Cub Cadet LTX1046KW that will need to be replaced soon. My house lot is built up and the one side and the back are sloped for about 20ft. at 20 to 23 degrees. My current mower handles the fine. Would the equivalent in a "lap bar" zero turn be ok,? The rest of the yard aprox. 1.5 acres if relatively flat.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by footballdude
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Member since Sep 2010
1074 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:34 am to
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how they perform on slopes and hills


They perform best on flat ground, performance degrades the steeper the hill


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drainage ditch


Zero turns love to get stuck.




My Hustler Raptor is 20x better than my Cub Cadet was.


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Lap bars are not designed for slopes

True because of
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Problem is there is no stability or control of the front tires.

This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 8:38 am
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