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re: You're Welcome Upper Terrebonne Parish--Barry related

Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6956 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:37 pm to
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If you want any productivity you are going to have to bring in the private sector.


On every coastal restoration project I've ever been involved in, experts from the private sector were involved. The state manages the projects as the steward of the funds and the one intrusted with the larger plan objectives.

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and use it as a election point.

No one in CPRA that is actively involved in managing the projects is a political appointee. They're hired on merit and are largely engineers and scientists who have sacrificed tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of their own earning potential because it is a cause they are invested in.

They have more skin in the game than you could ever imagine. It is deeply personal to them.
Posted by RickfromArizona
Sonoran Desert
Member since Sep 2013
366 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:43 pm to
you are wrong sir..LINK

I can post several articles after this of him stating other bullshite pertaining to the coast.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:51 pm to
Sorry for the damage when you build on the coast you roll the dice sometimes you lose.

My father and I owned a camp on Hollybeach Pre Hurricane Rita. Again a camp not a house.

It was a camp, right on the beach, near the gulf, prone to hurricanes, and Hurricane Rita took it out. Even before the storm we would get water under the camp with strong South wind.

No ones fault we rolled the dice and lost.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:51 pm to
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No one in CPRA that is actively involved in managing the projects


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you are wrong sir..LINK I can post several articles after this of him stating other bull shite pertaining to the coast


Try again
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 9:55 pm
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6956 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:56 pm to
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RickfromArizona
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you are wrong sir..LINK

I can post several articles after this of him stating other bullshite pertaining to the coast

What does an article about the governor have to do with people who actually design, manage and build the projects?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:04 pm to
For whoever mentioned the need to being in private consultants

LINK
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24160 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:39 pm to
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No ones fault we rolled the dice and lost.


I hear ya but In this case we are losing because of man made decisions amplifying nature’s way.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13665 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:54 am to
They had to draw the line in the sand somewhere.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24160 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:36 am to
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They had to draw the line in the sand somewhere.


I understand that. The government picked winners and losers. We lost. with no compensation.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:00 am to
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Upper Terrebonne owes a big thank you to anyone that sits below the newly constructed levee. While your water levels did not rise at all during Barry, below the levee in Dulac, we took on 6 feet of water for a TROPICAL STORM.

We are fortunate to have the means to take the hit, but many camps below the levee are total losses with much uninsurable real and movable property damage. Similar flooding was experienced for much more powerful storms like Rita. I guess this is a sign of what is to come.



you're right. Should've never done anything to protect the rest of the parish. Long as your camp is safe.

Posted by HotKoolaid
Member since Oct 2017
444 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:03 am to
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I understand that. The government picked winners and losers. We lost. with no compensation.


I hope you feel better soon.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:11 am to
Question for the board in general-is the OP correct about cause/effect of the levee?
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1509 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:18 am to
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Cat 1/Tropical Storm is now "catastrophic." Noted.



Cat don't tell u nothin bout the storm surge size, could be catastrophic with a TS
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:24 am to
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Question for the board in general-is the OP correct about cause/effect of the levee?


what difference does it make? OP is no different than those who have camps in the Morganza Spillway. Its the risk you take. if your shite gets wrecked in the process, so be it. Its the price you pay to have that camp in that spot.

And while I understand his complaint that the levees were built AFTER he bought his camp, he's no different than any other property owner who buys property that is adversely affected by later development.

There are no guarantees with anything. Yes I sympathize with his and other camp owners losses, but it is laughable that he feels owed a thanks or compensation because a flood control project negatively impacted his camp. Not his home. His CAMP.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:27 am to
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OP is no different than those who have camps in the Morganza Spillway. Its the risk you take.
You say this, then say,

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while I understand his complaint that the levees were built AFTER he bought his camp


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he's no different than any other property owner who buys property that is adversely affected by later development.
These people often have remedies.

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Yes I sympathize with his and other camp owners losses, but it is laughable that he feels owed a thanks or compensation because a flood control project negatively impacted his camp. Not his home. His CAMP.
Great, all I am asking is, is he right?
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:30 am to
You purchased an asset in a flood plane.....now you have flooding and want to blame the severity of it on someone or something tangible like a man made levee? Shouldn't you just blame your own ignorance? America today lets blame someone else even though we knew it would flood. It was a worse flood than we thought so its something else's fault. GTFO.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:36 am to
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These people often have remedies.


name them. Then tell me why he is any different.


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all I am asking is, is he right?


don't know. I'm not an engineer or a meteorologist. I doubt you could get a clear answer on this question anyway.

But even if he is correct, what does that matter? Should we remove the levees?

Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24160 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:37 am to
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You purchased an asset in a flood plane.....now you have flooding and want to blame the severity of it on someone or something tangible like a man made levee?


Yes. the flooding has increased very notably since the levee. A sustained south wind in May now causes flooding, where it didn't before.

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Shouldn't you just blame your own ignorance?


frick off. how the frick am I ignorant?

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America today lets blame someone else even though we knew it would flood


Again, frick off. We had no idea when we bought the property that the levee was being constructed where it is being constructed. Of course we understand that storms can come and cause flooding, but not to the extent that's happened since the levee was built.

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It was a worse flood than we thought so its something else's fault.


Yes, it is the levee's fault.

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GTFO


you get the frick out. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon in this thread, try to understand something that someone else is going through.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:40 am to
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But even if he is correct, what does that matter?
I just want to know
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24160 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:47 am to
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name them. Then tell me why he is any different.



when government does something so that a property is no longer usable or becomes unusable due to the costs to maintain, then it is considered a "taking". The remedy is that the government will compensate the property owner for his loss.

I may not be any different. But I still have to prove my case that the levee contributed to our losses. Then I have to surmount any immunities the parish/corps have.

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But even if he is correct, what does that matter? Should we remove the levees?


I don't think I've ever suggested moving the levees. Don't be dense. There are other solutions such as compensation, but while Upper Terrebonne sits nice and safe, we are getting hit. I don't blame UT one bit for feeling smug and safe, but damn, have some consideration for those that are taking hits for their comfort and safety.
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