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Woods road culvert
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:11 pm
I’ve got a spot that I need to fix a crossing to establish a perimeter road/trail in the woods. The spot drains about 60 acres. It’ll be primarily for ATV traffic, but I may want to maintain it for dry weather truck traffic too. Pretty sure a 36” pipe will suffice from the charts I’ve looked at. Whole watershed is wooded with moderate slopes.
Is 20 feet long enough? Seems like it would be. Longer is better but it comes at a cost. Any other advice from folks that have done this before? This is a ravine requiring quite a bit of dirt moving, oddly it drains a relatively small area, though. Thanks in advance.
Is 20 feet long enough? Seems like it would be. Longer is better but it comes at a cost. Any other advice from folks that have done this before? This is a ravine requiring quite a bit of dirt moving, oddly it drains a relatively small area, though. Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 8:31 pm
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Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:27 pm to turkish
Length depends on depth of hole.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:29 pm to White Bear
Thanks. That’s gonna push it longer then.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 9:36 pm to turkish
I have access to some 40’ joints if you need. May be 42” though, I can see what we have left in our yard. This is steel pipe for kinda cheap.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:29 am to turkish
Dealing with my own land through trial and error process I will tell you that never do a culvert if you can do a bridge.
I don’t know where you are in the world but with the silty loam soil we have here, as soon as I scratch the surface of the ground somewhere it starts eroding. I’ve tried what feels like every failing method. Best advice I have is do not break ground on a slope that drains water
I don’t know where you are in the world but with the silty loam soil we have here, as soon as I scratch the surface of the ground somewhere it starts eroding. I’ve tried what feels like every failing method. Best advice I have is do not break ground on a slope that drains water
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:45 am to WillFerrellisking
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I have access to some 40’ joints if you need. May be 42” though, I can see what we have left in our yard. This is steel pipe for kinda cheap.
Very interested.....
Posted on 7/28/24 at 12:51 pm to Dirt Booger
Thanks. I’ve got plenty of experience with erosion in loess soil along the bluffs of SW MS too. Agree this is not ideal. Bridge approaches would probably still be prone to erosion issues, though. I could show you plenty of abandoned bridges in similar geology (that drain much more acreage).
This spot is just too wide for a flatbed to make it across. What would a bridge cost? $30k? More?
This spot is just too wide for a flatbed to make it across. What would a bridge cost? $30k? More?
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:50 pm to turkish
I tried the culvert route when I first bought my place. Didn’t work. Finally purchased an old trailer frame and put new boards in it.
Much easier to take care of.
Much easier to take care of.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:28 pm to No Colors
I’ll see what’s left in yard tomorrow and let you know.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:30 pm to turkish
I own 1800 acres of hunting property
1-With longer pipe, you can have gradual slope, which will grow grass..you can cut… will stop erosion.shorter pipe with steep sides will erode, especially red dirt
2- get biggest circumference you can… one flood event and you are screwed.
1-With longer pipe, you can have gradual slope, which will grow grass..you can cut… will stop erosion.shorter pipe with steep sides will erode, especially red dirt
2- get biggest circumference you can… one flood event and you are screwed.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:46 pm to turkish
If that bad of an erosion problem why not use an “underwater “ bridge of 3-4” rip rap? Works well in some areas. May not in yours
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:48 pm to turkish
quote:if it's just atv, no, but for vehicles and tractors, if you're putting in bulkheads, etc., yes it can easily hit $30k and keep going.
This spot is just too wide for a flatbed to make it across. What would a bridge cost? $30k? More?
As mentioned, length depends on other factors, but i can tell you that a 20 ft. stick is rarely long enough, especially for a pickup.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:34 pm to Dirt Booger
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Dealing with my own land through trial and error process I will tell you that never do a culvert if you can do a bridge.
Absolutely. We reset and/or replaced 2 large 96" steel culverts so many times at my grandfathers we lost count. About 12 years ago a gas company came through and put a bridge across the creek. 2 of the worst floods ever endured have happened in the last 10 years and the bridge was not damaged at all.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:25 pm to Tridentds
What was happening? Heavy rainfall events washing the pipe away? Or water running down the approach causing issues? How much acreage was draining to this spot? “Creek” says bridge to me, too.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:57 pm to turkish
I’m starting on a low water creek crossing tomorrow. I’ll try to post some pictures.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 12:34 pm to turkish
We successfully built two "bridges" using 40 foot shipping containers in SW MS. Crossed many times with ATVs, a tractor and regular trucks. Makes a great escape when a sudden storm hits.
Worth a think...
Worth a think...
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