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re: Why are deer restrictions drastically different from Midwest to south?

Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:22 pm to
Northeast Arkansas where I live the zone only gets a 2 day shotgun only hunt along with a bow season.

Bag limit 3 deer.

The habitat is non existent here. Very few bedding areas, the only trees you see are the occasional wind break between fields.

I have a friend who bow hunts here religiously and he hasn’t seen a doe on his cameras in 2 weeks and he has 4000 acres.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:27 pm to
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Northeast Arkansas where I live the zone only gets a 2 day shotgun only hunt along with a bow season.

Bag limit 3 deer.

The habitat is non existent here. Very few bedding areas, the only trees you see are the occasional wind break between fields.


That’s how it used to be in Southeast MO until people started putting what used to be layout ground into CRP and WRP, a few tree farms sprung up, and more people started managing for deer. Now we have a nice population.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:59 am to
All those Midwest and Northern states have a much higher rate of deer-auto collisions than Louisiana.Whats the point of having severe limit restrictions on hunters just to have automobiles hit them on the highway.
My sister and bil are traveling the country in their RV,said they couldn’t believe how many dead deer along the highways in Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:08 am to
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The habitat in the SE supports or is capable of supporting a lot more deer than the midwest. Quality wise, it's not as good (probably could be better), but pure numbers are better for that reason.

While I get that. Louisiana has about 500k deer, Iowa has a similar number, Kansas has over 600k, and you get into Missouri, Wisconsin....and they have over a million in each state yet still are highly restrictive.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56279 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Northeast Arkansas where I live the zone only gets a 2 day shotgun only hunt along with a bow season.

Bag limit 3 deer.

The habitat is non existent here. Very few bedding areas, the only trees you see are the occasional wind break between fields.

I have a friend who bow hunts here religiously and he hasn’t seen a doe on his cameras in 2 weeks and he has 4000 acres.


I would have to find me a new hobby.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:03 am to
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As an example, take a look at Utah. Hard draw odds, minimal tags issued. Huge deer and elk harvested every year and a thriving population. It’s clearly managed for quality.



Our wildlife guys do a really good job with limited resources.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2333 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Louisiana has about 500k deer, Iowa has a similar number, Kansas has over 600k, and you get into Missouri, Wisconsin....and they have over a million in each state yet still are highly restrictive.


Density isn't much better in Louisiana either. Don't know why there is this perception that our seasons are longer because we have more deer. Densities:

Louisiana - 10 per square mile
Mississippi - 35 psm
Alabama - 33 psm
Kentucky - 20 psm
Wisconsin - 18 psm
Ohio - 18 psm
Missouri - 17 psm
Texas - 15 psm
Illinois - 14 psm
Minnesota - 9 psm
Oklahoma - 7 psm
Kansas - 7 psm
Iowa - 6 psm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42566 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:49 pm to
MS has some underrated deer hunting.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:54 pm to
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While I get that. Louisiana has about 500k deer, Iowa has a similar number, Kansas has over 600k, and you get into Missouri, Wisconsin....and they have over a million in each state yet still are highly restrictive.

Because the dictate in those states is trophy/quality management and not opportunity/quantity. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:06 pm to
Seems about right for the MS density. I have 1/4 square and figure there are around ten deer staying on and around my property. Been watching the same ones all year on camera. Now you would never think it as you can hunt multiple times without even seeing a glimpse of the bastards.
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