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re: Whole home, standby generator
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:39 pm to A_bear
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:39 pm to A_bear
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he’s convinced me to go the diesel generator route. He said his burns about 4 gallons a day
Id like to know how he’s only burning 4 gallons a day, I have an onan diesel generator and it burns way more than 4 gallons a day. Mine burns 3 times that being conservative about what I have on.
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:10 pm to SmoothBox
I’m not exactly sure, as it’s not my house, nor my equipment, and I was not there to confirm the specifics. I can say it’s an approximately 1600sqft house, and a 43kw generator. I can only tell you what I was told, but you’re welcome to do your own tests. I know for a fact I cannot afford a 43kw generator, so my diesel costs will definitely be more.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:47 pm to Squirrelmeister
How would you keep your diesel fuel stable, just sitting in the tank year round?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:52 pm to lsu1987
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How would you keep your diesel fuel stable, just sitting in the tank year round?
Us it in your tractor or truck or whatever to cycle it. Keep the tank clean, have a good filtering system, and add liquid fungicide and algaecide to the fuel in the tank.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:20 am to Squirrelmeister
I want to double check my knowlege.
I have an exterior panel. the garage subpanel.
To backfeed, i'd need to essentially turn off all my main exterior breakers outside panel below? That shuts off all electricity flow down the line at that point?
also, turn off all breakers on inside panel and just turn on one by one the panels i want once i have generator plugged in.
I have an exterior panel. the garage subpanel.
To backfeed, i'd need to essentially turn off all my main exterior breakers outside panel below? That shuts off all electricity flow down the line at that point?
also, turn off all breakers on inside panel and just turn on one by one the panels i want once i have generator plugged in.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:35 am to Chad504boy
Yeah that should be it but it looks like your sub panel is a 110 so that’s only gonna power up half your panel. Pretty certain anyway
Edit I saw it’s wide so probably a single pole 220 then
Edit I saw it’s wide so probably a single pole 220 then
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:37 am to Chad504boy
Don't take this the wrong way -
If you need to ask these kinds of questions, you should not be doing any backfeeding of anything. It's a damn dangerous thing to do if you don't have an intimate knowledge of what is going on.
If you need to ask these kinds of questions, you should not be doing any backfeeding of anything. It's a damn dangerous thing to do if you don't have an intimate knowledge of what is going on.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Don't take this the wrong way -
If you need to ask these kinds of questions, you should not be doing any backfeeding of anything. It's a damn dangerous thing to do if you don't have an intimate knowledge of what is going on.
I take no ill intent from your statement. I'm fully aware of this. It's also why i have chosen to never do it and always did the extension cord method.
BUT i am trying to re-educate myself and make sure what would be correct if i ever felt a situation or need to do such.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:35 pm to Chad504boy
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trying to re-educate myself and make sure what would be correct if i ever felt a situation or need to do such.
You should add an interlock and a proper plug and get the correct cord. It's relatively inexpensive and very safe.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 2:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You should add an interlock and a proper plug and get the correct cord. It's relatively inexpensive and very safe.
i have a 50amp outlet i can feed into on the corner of my house. already gots a suicide cord and all.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 2:48 pm to Chad504boy
Well if you're gonna do it anyway -
- make sure the circuit you are intending to use is a 220v circuit sized for the generator output, generally 30 or 50 amps
- open all the breakers, starting with the main.
- connect the cord to the generator and the backfeed circuit
- crank the generator
- close the breaker for the generators circuit. This is your new main breaker. Do not close the panel main breaker from this point on.
- close 1 breaker for a 110 circuit, use a meter to check that circuit has 110 volts and 60hz on it.
Close 1 breaker for a 110 circuit on the other side of the panel check that both of them have 110 volts on them
Once that checks out, you can start closing breakers to what you want to run. If anything starts sounding weird, open the generators circuit breaker and shut down the gen.
Don't unplug the cord with the generator running
Don't close the main breaker with the cord hooked up.
Shutting this operation down is the opposite of starting it up. You don't want to leave all the load breakers closed because you don't want to step load the generator, it'll probably trip or die.
You really should rig up a proper plug and an interlock. It's so much simpler and safer than going through this whole commotion.
- make sure the circuit you are intending to use is a 220v circuit sized for the generator output, generally 30 or 50 amps
- open all the breakers, starting with the main.
- connect the cord to the generator and the backfeed circuit
- crank the generator
- close the breaker for the generators circuit. This is your new main breaker. Do not close the panel main breaker from this point on.
- close 1 breaker for a 110 circuit, use a meter to check that circuit has 110 volts and 60hz on it.
Close 1 breaker for a 110 circuit on the other side of the panel check that both of them have 110 volts on them
Once that checks out, you can start closing breakers to what you want to run. If anything starts sounding weird, open the generators circuit breaker and shut down the gen.
Don't unplug the cord with the generator running
Don't close the main breaker with the cord hooked up.
Shutting this operation down is the opposite of starting it up. You don't want to leave all the load breakers closed because you don't want to step load the generator, it'll probably trip or die.
You really should rig up a proper plug and an interlock. It's so much simpler and safer than going through this whole commotion.
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