re: Whats up with all the love for 1911's?

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Whats up with all the love for 1911's

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Cause they give you something to do with them when you are not shooting them......


Fixing tehm and keeping them clean

I love them, But I hate that that I don't have one

Not many hate on the 1911. Yet just see newer technology as better battle pistol.

I don't know who is right.

Decent analogy

just trying to figure out whats up with all the love for the 1911 is, but i think i grasped it before the expert arrived

I was at dinner.

I can't speak for everyone but its nostalgia for me. My paw paw gave me his when I was about 15 years old. It was his service pistol that he carried in the pacific theater. I then began shooting in IPSC/USPSA events and fell in love with the platform.

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Wooly

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I'll chime in as a 1911 lover...

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American Muscle (1911) - expensive, more to maintain, have a good history, look badass.

vs.

import (glock/m&p) - cheaper, easier to maintain, not much history

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Not necessarily. By the way, the M&P is made by Smith and Wesson and isn't really an "import." I understand your analogy but it's more than just 1911 vs polymer.

Here is my take on the 1911 with each piece:

Grip - It has the perfect grip angle as discovered by John Moses Browning himself. It is the most pointable angle (18 degrees I believe) and aims perfectly with my eyes. Guns with this grip angle (basically anything except Glock, Luger P08, Ruger Mark 3 (NOT 22/45)) are the easiest to shoot since they are able to follow John Browning's recipe.

The 1911 pistol was originally designed with a grip safety because they wanted to add an extra safety feature in case it was dropped while riding on horseback to prevent a discharge. That's right - the 1911 was invented before cars were mass-produced. That just shows how the design is still the most relevant in history.

Barrel - John Browning patented the locked-breech design. Back in the day, most pistols had fixed barrels, like the Luger P08 or the Walther P38. Almost every polymer pistol on the market follows the locked-breech design. The barrel drops from the locked position and tilts towards the top of the magazine to accept the next round. The only thing that is really different is the absence of a barrel link.

The barrel is also held tightly in place by a barrel bushing. This is why the 1911 is so insanely accurate. The tight, consistent lockup gives the tightest groups if the shooter does his or her part.

Capacity - Not the 1911's strong suit, but people seem to forget that companies make 10 round magazines for them. They protrude a little from the bottom of the grip, but they still hold 2 more than the 8 round magazines, nonetheless.

Caliber - Back in its day, the 45 was the big boy on the block. Since powder technology has progressed, the smaller guys have finally caught up to the big 45 ACP, which stands for "Automatic Colt Pistol" and was also designed by John Moses Browning.

General Ergonomics - The slim grip, natural grip angle, perfect pointability, and smooth lines make this thing the Cadillac of the shooting world. Shooting anything else feels like driving a Toyota Camry compared to taking this bad boy for a spin.

Trigger - It is one of the only (if not THE only) single-action-only semi automatic pistols. The trigger moves STRAIGHT back, rather than hinging from the top like every other trigger on the market. It is like breaking a glass rod when pulling the perfect trigger on a 1911. It is also extremely light and the reset is very short. The possibilities for the perfect 1911 trigger is endless, as the design has had 100+ years to mature.

Lineage - If you haven't held a WWI or WWII era 1911, you have no idea what you're missing.

When I first held one, I simply wondered - where has this piece of machinery been? It may have been used in the trenches to displace Germans, or it may have been in the jungles of the Pacific theater. It is absolutely stunning to hold an old one. As beat up or "ugly" as it may be, the history of the gun makes it THAT beautiful.

That's all I got...

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damn.. well now i want to shoot one

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You shoot one and you'll wind up owning one.

cant afford one right now.... but in a few weeks i can.... so maybe i shouldnt shoot it

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PS update on the M&P?

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talked to barneys, they said to just call back daily. but im in ms for training until the tenth, so unless they have them on the weekends, its kinda pointless for me to call because i cant drive to get it.

but barneys is definitely where i plan on purchasing it... over $100 cheaper than other places. ill gladly wait to save $100