re: UPDATE (pg 11): I was asked to leave the hunting club for not violating any rules

Can’t imagine hunting in a place or with people who get mad at you for shooting a deer. Killing a good buck should be a celebration…not puckering up and worrying if the main beam is 22” or 21 3/4” or whatever bullshite arbitrary rule you have to decipher in the heat of the moment.

Curious why you didn’t want to do a shoulder mount?

Thanks for this post. People often forget that hunting is supposed to be fun. Especially for children. Anger begets anger in an endless cycle. You can only control what you can control.

Spend the effort on the front end making the rules…if that’s your responsibility and be ready for people to make mistakes. Invite folks that you trust. You don’t need 100 friends. A handful is more than enough.

On my property kids can shoot anything. Button bucks, trophies, small fawns….i don’t care. It’s up to the adults to control any blood lusts that are developing there by teaching conservation. Something that should be discussed at the dinner table rather than a poker game sometimes. Discuss nature. Respecting flora and fauna that God has given us.

Unfortunately a lot of these camps mentioned in this thread alone are apparently fueled by blood lusts, trophies, alcohol and tyrants.

That’s not what it’s about. Do your homework and find a better spot OP

I hunt public land but often consider joining a club.....then I read stories like OP.

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Not accusing you of anything, just trying to figure out how to get in front of shite like that. Everyone on our place gets along but it’s hard to find a balance between putting reasonable shite in writing and having to write an encyclopedia of rules that should be common sense.

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Yeah, clubs can be finicky. They have as many unwritten rules as written ones. My dad and I used to be in a club that was all family. We got out when we realized we had too much to take care of on our own land and were barely hunting on the club.

The "problems" that would arise would be people who weren't "family" (i.e. in-laws or friends of family members) who didn't grow up in the club and know/understand those unwritten rules. These were very limited problems and in almost all cases once the unwritten rules were explained they were followed. A lot of them were common courtesy.

One example: The club had several logging roads through it. You could build a stand on these roads since they weren't public, but you did so with the understanding that people were going to come by them. However, unless you killed a deer, you were expected to stay in your stand until 10am in the morning. We had an issue with a non family member that would take a young kid hunting who would only last till about 7am. So, he would go in before daylight, back out at 7, then back into the stand by himself and then back out again, usually before anyone else got off their stands.

This is typical hunting camp bs. It's all about how someone spins the narrative.

Reality: Hunter A follows the rules, pays dues, attends work days. He gets his money's worth by coming a good bit etc. but that's why you spend the money. Hunter A slipped up by letting his kid shoot a smaller doe--big deal. New guy got lucky and killed ol moose horns.

However, a long-time member B has old moose horns on camera.

New narrative to camp president: Hunter A LIVES at the camp. He lets his kid shoot up the woods. I saw 2 empty beer cans in the back of his truck. He killed moose horns just so no one else kill him bc otherwise he would mounted it. he obviously doesn't respect land/animals etc

Then Hunter A is kicked out

Ole baw should have left the minute they told him it was the biggest deer ever killed at their club. Writing was on the wall at that point.

What’s the philosophy?

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New narrative to camp president: Hunter A LIVES at the camp. He lets his kid shoot up the woods. I saw 2 empty beer cans in the back of his truck. He killed moose horns just so no one else kill him bc otherwise he would mounted it. he obviously doesn't respect land/animals etc

Then Hunter A is kicked out

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Are you a member of the same club?

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I saw 2 empty beer cans in the back of his truck.

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This is how I know you're not in the same club because we had members bringing a sixer to the deer stand in the evenings or a thermos full of coffee and whiskey in the morning.