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Training Wirehaired Griffon for deer tracking;/**** Update. Upland bird help needed now
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:00 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:00 am
Going to out my new pup onto some deer training. I’m going to practice at the house wi the a deer leg and some blood, and then likely send him to Devall for proper training in March. Anyone have experience with Devall or training a pointer for tracking?
Also, going to introduce him to the e collar at 5-6 months for general obedience and off leash handling. Seem about right age wise?
Harry
Deer tracking training surprisingly went very well. Already had him track two successful shots deer in the woods. I was surprised how easily he picked it up for 4 months old. I now want to take on upland birds and pointing. Wickowick others, how should I start this? I’m thinking woodcock is the starting point correct?
He does extremely well staying close to me and paying attention to me and circling back in the woods. He took really well to the e-collar in this regards
Also, going to introduce him to the e collar at 5-6 months for general obedience and off leash handling. Seem about right age wise?
Harry
Deer tracking training surprisingly went very well. Already had him track two successful shots deer in the woods. I was surprised how easily he picked it up for 4 months old. I now want to take on upland birds and pointing. Wickowick others, how should I start this? I’m thinking woodcock is the starting point correct?
He does extremely well staying close to me and paying attention to me and circling back in the woods. He took really well to the e-collar in this regards
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 6:32 pm
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:02 am to lsupride87
That is a smart breed, he will probably pick it up quicker than you are thinking.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:05 am to wickowick
He can already find scruff I hide in the yard, and has sniffed out a family of rabbits and recreated the holocaust in my backyard
But I just don’t trust myself to fully train him to find the “right” scents. Example find the deer, find the deer sheds, not just follow what your nose wants to
But I just don’t trust myself to fully train him to find the “right” scents. Example find the deer, find the deer sheds, not just follow what your nose wants to
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:07 am to lsupride87
nothing to add, just wanted to say that's a great looking pup. I can't imagine dealing with thorns/stickers/sand spurs in our area in that fur though....
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:11 am to Stexas
When he got the rabbits they were in our garden herb bed, which is nothing but weeds this time of the year. The amount of weed sticker pods stuck to him was unreal. 
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:12 am to lsupride87
As stated above, he will probably pick up on it pretty quick.
My GSP has found two hogs, one wounded and one dead, and a deer that left minimal to no blood trails.
The only thing is I don't know when she finds them because she doesn't bark or anything. So I put on her beeper collar and use that to track her, especially at night. Once I hear the beeper stop in one area, I follow the sound and she's standing over the deer licking it.
She still points birds just fine.
My GSP has found two hogs, one wounded and one dead, and a deer that left minimal to no blood trails.
The only thing is I don't know when she finds them because she doesn't bark or anything. So I put on her beeper collar and use that to track her, especially at night. Once I hear the beeper stop in one area, I follow the sound and she's standing over the deer licking it.
She still points birds just fine.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:22 am to yodaddyroberto
Did you just drag hides, legs, blood for mock tracks for training?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:48 am to lsupride87
I am colorblind and having a trailing dog is a must for me. I brought my dog to Devall for scent trailing training and have had fantastic results. He will train your dog to trail scent, not deer or blood in particular. When I picked my dog up, he had is daughter twirl a qtip in her hair and drop it while we talked
He went and got my dog and showed him the qtip, gave the command to track and he went directly to his kid who was off in the woods about 400 yards away hiding.
He used deer hide, squirrel, and some other stuff. He ran trails over other trails and the dog keys on the scent you want tracked and ignores the others.
He was big on obedience, not sure what age he takes dogs to train. Give him a call he is a great guy and has a nice setup at his house.
He went and got my dog and showed him the qtip, gave the command to track and he went directly to his kid who was off in the woods about 400 yards away hiding.
He used deer hide, squirrel, and some other stuff. He ran trails over other trails and the dog keys on the scent you want tracked and ignores the others.
He was big on obedience, not sure what age he takes dogs to train. Give him a call he is a great guy and has a nice setup at his house.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:11 am to lsupride87
I did a little dragging of legs maybe once or twice. But she really just picked it up on her own. If you shoot a deer, bring the dog out there, even if you see it run off and fall. Let the dog get that experience.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:44 am to lsupride87
I love a griffon. I've had one for 6 years and his nose is incredible. I haven't gotten him into to deer tracking but he picked up how to use the scent cone naturally.
He's great around my kid and decent in the house.
They are sensitive and introduction to the e-collar and gun shots should be taken with care. Mine is collar trained and can take hand signals, when he isn't hard headed but I think this comes from his intelligence. He knows somethings there but want's to find it on his own.
He's great around my kid and decent in the house.
They are sensitive and introduction to the e-collar and gun shots should be taken with care. Mine is collar trained and can take hand signals, when he isn't hard headed but I think this comes from his intelligence. He knows somethings there but want's to find it on his own.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:51 am to lsupride87
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He will train your dog to trail scent, not deer or blood in particular.
This. A good tracker in my area told me the first time his dogs smell blood is on their first track. He starts his dogs with playing with the hooves, fetching and such. The scent gland in the hooves is apparently strong as hell after an injury so his wants his dogs to pick that up where the animal was shot and track that. If it’s not season and he doesn’t have a hoof in the freezer he will grab fresh roadkill and use that hoof.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:23 pm to lsupride87
Randy Devall is one of, if not the best, trainers you will find. Highly recommend his services
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:37 pm to lsupride87
My Drahthaar picked it up pretty instantly. However I had already put him on several rabbit tracks, dead squirrel drags, dead duck drags, and hot dog trails.
I was told to cut a hot dog into small pieces, throw them on the ground, point and say “track” to teach that your pointing means something is there.
There’s a really good book called: “Tracking Dog” that has a GSD on the cover. I’d suggest reading that
I was told to cut a hot dog into small pieces, throw them on the ground, point and say “track” to teach that your pointing means something is there.
There’s a really good book called: “Tracking Dog” that has a GSD on the cover. I’d suggest reading that
Posted on 11/11/22 at 10:54 am to lsupride87
Honestly, Give him 30 min of strict training a day and you wont need to send him to anyone. He will pick it up
Posted on 11/12/22 at 7:25 am to lsupride87
Your dog doesn't really need training to find a wounded deer. As soon as you take him to the spot you shot, he'll know where the deer went.
The training is to keep him following the scent even if it's a mile long.
He really doesn't need to be trained since it's in his DNA.
The training is to keep him following the scent even if it's a mile long.
He really doesn't need to be trained since it's in his DNA.
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