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re: Trail Camera ban on LA WMA's

Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:38 pm to
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What kind of hunting aids should we start allowing so he has a better chance of killin?


None

You are the one that keeps saying camera are unfair to other hunters
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Lsutigerturner
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:40 pm to
That’s awesome lmfao what a troll job
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Going out on public (not talking private) finding and reading sign and setting up on sign you found with zero help from outside technology or the aid of bait and shooting a deer, any deer that you beat on his own turf just makes it all worth while! The surprise of not knowing makes hunting fun to me again
What about going out on public and finding sign to setup on, only to sit there most weekend mornings and afternoons and not see a thing? That was me, losing the urge to hunt over the last few years because I was tired of thinking I had a good spot and spending most of my weekend time sitting there only to keep going home empty handed without ever seeing any deer.

Decided to give cameras a try and seeing that there was actually game passing through there (even at night) kept me motivated to not give up. Especially when I’d get pics that were closer to legal shooting time
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:02 pm to
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We've been using rifles since the 1700's. Not exactly the same thing as cell phone cameras or electric bikes


And you know what else we hunted with?

This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:08 pm to
They also hunted for pure survival. Most of the hard legs out there today are trying to get a pic of their basket rack 8 on the Gram.
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:16 pm to
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They also hunted for pure survival. Most of the hard legs out there today are trying to get a pic of their basket rack 8 on the Gram.


Agreed. We don’t do it for pics, it’s all about hearing the race for us. A deer is just a bonus.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:28 pm to
I'd be curious to know when the majority of America transitioned from hunting for survival to hunting for money or fun.

Market hunting was a prevalent thing a long, long, long time ago. Sure, there were starving people hunting to survive on the frontiers but I bet it was largely supplemental or sporting east of the Mississippi a really damn long time ago.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:59 pm to
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None



I agree....though then there are these guys:

quote:

The retired guy gets to hunt all he wants.

I get to hunt Saturday mornings.





But I get it, you really really like cameras and don't care who knows.





Cameras are absolutely increasing kill numbers on public. Over the next decade the powers that be may decide to:

Ban cameras and other tracking devices. (difficult)
Implement a lottery or similar equal opportunity system (best)
Do nothing and let game numbers continue to fall (most likely)



fwiw, One of the whitetail management FB pages I peruse has mentioned a sort of "livescope" for deer. A 360* device that gets mounted 20-30ft in a tree and can "see" for as far as tree density or terrain allows . Actual photos may be antiquated in 10 years. iirc this works for things like Turkey as well. I might be in the minority I don't want these on public land.




eta I forgot this gem
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You are the one that keeps saying camera are unfair to other hunters


Cameras will absolutely give an advantage to whoever buys and hangs the most.

Fyi, I've been using cameras since we were modifying outdoor motion light sensors and stuffing it with a 35mm camera in an ammo box then going to walmart to drop the film off. I still use them on public sometimes to stay competitive but would be glad to not mess them anymore if they were banned.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 9:31 pm
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:10 pm to
lol, I hunt 99% public and yes that’s how it works for me.

I won’t change your mind and you won’t change my mind and that’s fine. I go to public lands to get away from what hunting has become.
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:14 pm to
Keep it to private lands and keep running those hounds!
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
701 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:44 am to
Some people in this thread are ridiculous. If it is not illegal, what’s the problem.

Do not worry about what other people do.

It’s the same thing with people who fuss about cross bows. If healthy people want to use them, fine, let them.


Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:54 am to
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If it is not illegal, what’s the problem.


Because it's lame af
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:01 am to
I guess you are one of the people who think you should only kill 150 inch deer, on public land, only using a recurve, 50 feet up a tree in a climber.


It doesn’t matter what other people do if it’s not illegal.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:06 am to
I hunt on the ground. I hate climbing stands.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:07 am to
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I go to public lands to get away from what hunting has become.


Me too

It’s why I regularly hike 2 miles back into public. It’s why I only bowhunt. I like the challenge. Using cameras hasn’t made my hunting any easier. My kill rate hasn’t increased at all.

I’ve never had a mature buck that predictably follows the same path or routine on public. They change their patterns too often due to pressure. This idea that you can pattern mature deer on pressured public land by hanging a camera on a trail is laughable IMO. Will it let you know if he is in the area? Sure. But that’s it. Observational sits do that too.

My biggest issue with your opinion is that you want to ban something simply because you don’t like it. I have lots of problems with that type of opinion.
Posted by SenseiBuddy
Ascension Parish
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:32 am to
I understand what you’re saying I just would like to mention that pictures are stored on your SD card not your SIM card. And most cameras do have Integrated lock Holes in the front so the doors can’t be opened And cable lock mounts On the back. Sure, the thief can break them all and steal it, but it would require much more tools and effort.


That totally sucks that fella did that in front of your camera. High morals are rare these days
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:36 am to
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It’s why I regularly hike 2 miles back into public. It’s why I only bowhunt. I like the challenge. Using cameras hasn’t made my hunting any easier. My kill rate hasn’t increased at all. I’ve never had a mature buck that predictably follows the same path or routine on public. They change their patterns too often due to pressure. This idea that you can pattern mature deer on pressured public land by hanging a camera on a trail is laughable IMO. Will it let you know if he is in the area? Sure. But that’s it. Observational sits do that too.


I have zero ability, and I mean ZERO ability to pattern mature bucks on public land. Like you, I only bowhunt as well. See sign, hunt sign is my mantra. Other than that, I just hope to get lucky. That’s why they call it hunting and not killing. Mature bucks on public Louisiana land (while few and far between) are a force to be reckoned with.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4414 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Some people in this thread are ridiculous. If it is not illegal, what’s the problem.




Things become "illegal" because people decide there is a problem. That's how its always been since the beginning of rules.



We didn't just stop hunting turkey with rifles out of the blue. First people complained about it being a problem, then it was made illegal.



This isn't difficult.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 6:59 pm to
I hunt public land occasionally and have never used a camera but I still don't want them banned. Mainly because if the game wardens want it, I'm against it. Especially considering what their argument is for banning them.

About the cameras, I read an article years ago that stated cameras were the best and worse thing to ever happen to hunting. Best because now we are getting bigger deer. People are letting deer go because they know what's in the area. They've also seen what happens to deer if you let them mature. Before, people saw a deer, they shot. Also, it gets people excited about hunting. Worse because if you kill a hammer, people would be excited, patting you on the back, you'd be the king of the hunting club. Now when you kill that hammer, everyone is pissed because they all had the same deer on camera.

For those that are talking about not using technology on public land, I hope you aren't using xhunter and google earth to look at aerial maps to help narrow down a good place to start scouting. Go get you a paper map and do it the old school way
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:23 pm to
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Now when you kill that hammer, everyone is pissed because they all had the same deer on camera


My experience has been exactly the opposite. Before we shared cameras people thought that deer only came to one area, now they can see he was on 4 different ones in one night and 14 others in two weeks. They can see first hand it’s time in the seat that killed that deer, not being in one particular spot.
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