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re: Today, I became a b*tch: ATF/Pistol brace related…
Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:38 am to Fox McCloud
Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:38 am to Fox McCloud
quote:
Have angled foregrip, romeo 5 red dot, brace stock it came with with strap, and flip up iron sights
you're screwed.
register it for $200 or remove the brace and replace the buffer tube.
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:57 am to finchmeister08
For anyone considering the SBR route, my experience:
-Paperwork took about 20 days to be approved
-tax stamp is $200
-receiver must be engraved w/ your name/address. cost - $20ish
-to travel across state lines w/ SBR requires approval form (5320.20). This took 120 days and is valid for 364 days. Most people file one annually for any state they frequent.
Perks of SBR:
-configure any way you want. No barrel length or attachment restrictions.
Takes a special kind of stoopid to truly believe any of these laws and policies will create meaninful change.
-Paperwork took about 20 days to be approved
-tax stamp is $200
-receiver must be engraved w/ your name/address. cost - $20ish
-to travel across state lines w/ SBR requires approval form (5320.20). This took 120 days and is valid for 364 days. Most people file one annually for any state they frequent.
Perks of SBR:
-configure any way you want. No barrel length or attachment restrictions.
Takes a special kind of stoopid to truly believe any of these laws and policies will create meaninful change.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:06 am to SwampCollie
Wow well this was a waste of money. I’m only gonna use it at the range, not sure where I would ever encounter atf agents.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:43 am to Fox McCloud
quote:
I’m only gonna use it at the range, not sure where I would ever encounter atf agents.
don't put it past the federal gov't to hang around gun ranges. if you're in the back 40 of your hunting property, that would be a different story.
how much do you value the pistol brace?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:59 am to finchmeister08
Mine looks like this below. I’m not even sure what I’m supposed to be replacing
Posted on 7/28/22 at 11:04 am to Fox McCloud
You have the SB Mini brace? Or is it the adjustable/telescoping one?
You also mentioned you have an angled fore grip. I have a strong feeling that you’re over the point limit.
You also mentioned you have an angled fore grip. I have a strong feeling that you’re over the point limit.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 11:33 am to finchmeister08
It can be adjusted to different lengths but it has the straps so it can be put around the wrist. I remember when I bought the angled foregrip it was legal but I guess things have changed
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:31 pm to Fox McCloud
just take the brace off, replace the buffer tube with a smooth/no notch pistol rated buffer tube and keep all the other shite on it and call it a day.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:52 pm to finchmeister08
So I can still have the stock thought right? Like be able to shoulder it, just change out the buffer tube so it can’t adjust?
Or if you have a link to what you bought that would be super helpful
Or if you have a link to what you bought that would be super helpful
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:57 pm to Fox McCloud
quote:
So I can still have the stock thought right?
first mistake. quit calling it a stock. it's not a stock.
quote:
Like be able to shoulder it,
the ATF is trying to keep you from doing this. that's the whole point of the points system.
quote:
just change out the buffer tube so it can’t adjust?
no. you're going to take the pistol brace off and throw it in the trash. or closet. replace the buffer tube with a smooth one.
essentially, you're AR pistol will look like this.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 1:02 pm to finchmeister08
Ok that really fricking sucks, thank you for clarifying
I guess my question would be is there a way to be under in the point system and still be able to shoulder it. If not, I may have to figure out this form 1 bullshite and pay $200. Hopefully it doesn’t get denied
I guess my question would be is there a way to be under in the point system and still be able to shoulder it. If not, I may have to figure out this form 1 bullshite and pay $200. Hopefully it doesn’t get denied
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 7/28/22 at 1:21 pm to Fox McCloud
the form was designed to be as vague as possible. an ATF agent in louisiana can judge a specific setup completely different from an ATF agent in new york.
basically, if you have an adjustable pistol brace, you've already failed the form. they give an example of one passing, the image and form on the previous page, but again, it's still up in the air based on which ATF agent you may or may not run into because they will all judge it differently.
you essentially have 3 options:
remove the pistol brace / replace the buffer tube
register it for $200 and put a real stock on it
ignore it and risk getting caught
basically, if you have an adjustable pistol brace, you've already failed the form. they give an example of one passing, the image and form on the previous page, but again, it's still up in the air based on which ATF agent you may or may not run into because they will all judge it differently.
you essentially have 3 options:
remove the pistol brace / replace the buffer tube
register it for $200 and put a real stock on it
ignore it and risk getting caught
Posted on 7/28/22 at 1:28 pm to finchmeister08
quote:
ust take the brace off, replace the buffer tube with a smooth/no notch pistol rated buffer tube and keep all the other shite on it and call it a day.
So what if I make a tactical shirt with a shooting pad in it that has a recessed indention that is 1/4in larger than the pistol buffer tube??!!
Posted on 7/28/22 at 1:37 pm to Ol boy
you do you
Posted on 7/28/22 at 1:42 pm to Ol boy
quote:Brilliant!
a tactical shirt with a shooting pad in it that has a recessed indention that is 1/4in larger than the pistol buffer tube??!!
Posted on 7/28/22 at 2:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Unless you travel with your firearms frequently.
True.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:17 pm to Ol boy
quote:Soon our shirts will need stamps as well
So what if I make a tactical shirt with a shooting pad in it that has a recessed indention that is 1/4in larger than the pistol buffer tube??!!
A friend and I were talking about this point system a few months back and how screwed companies like SB Tactical will be. But we wondered what stops a company like SBT from making a wearable shoulder pad that can do what you described.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:13 pm to finchmeister08
That is insane.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:16 pm to finchmeister08
quote:
the form was designed to be as vague as possible. an ATF agent in louisiana can judge a specific setup completely different from an ATF agent in new york.
Vague and ambiguous, should be DOA in any sane courtroom.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:47 pm to HeadSlash
Anymore updates to this? Still haven’t seen anything saying “we’re now enforcing this rule.”
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