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Today, I became a b*tch: ATF/Pistol brace related…
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:35 pm
Bought a “basic bitch” buffer tube for my Anderson/Stern Defense 9mm AR pistol. I don’t feel like playing games with the ATF. Chances are low that I would get in trouble, but I don’t want feel like fighting the law alone on this if anything were to happen so I’ll just pack my Kak Blade and notched buffer tube in the closet until it’s safe to come back out.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:00 pm to finchmeister08
I’ll be doing the same. I put a buffer tube on my Extar 9.
Our problem would be if we had to use them in a self defense situation. I think those bastards would come knocking..
Our problem would be if we had to use them in a self defense situation. I think those bastards would come knocking..
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:14 pm to finchmeister08
Me too, so don't bother coming to my house now ATF.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:20 pm to finchmeister08
Fill me in?
Has there been a recent change from all the other “rumors” of changes?
I know about the whole is it or if you shoulder it it is but only if not intended slash whatever. But was there something recent to make you lose it in the boating accident?
Has there been a recent change from all the other “rumors” of changes?
I know about the whole is it or if you shoulder it it is but only if not intended slash whatever. But was there something recent to make you lose it in the boating accident?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:23 pm to Ol boy
Apparently, the point system goes into effect next month.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:59 pm to finchmeister08
Can you explain what you bought for someone with very limited knowledge of “extras”. I don’t understand what you bought
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:11 pm to Mr.Perfect
I bought a smooth, pistol style buffer tube so I can keep all the other shite on it. Sites, grips, etc.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:17 pm to finchmeister08
Got a link about this pernt system going in effect?
I dont see how they can do this after they gave the go ahead in an opinion letter not long ago that braces were fine AND you can shoulder the weapon.
Someone has to challenge this as unconstitutional. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.
I dont see how they can do this after they gave the go ahead in an opinion letter not long ago that braces were fine AND you can shoulder the weapon.
Someone has to challenge this as unconstitutional. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:30 pm to rattlebucket
The Supreme Court just ruled against government agencies legislating law. Said it was Congress's job.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:37 pm to HeadSlash
Yes, I understand that, but until someone holds the ATF accountable, I’ll be swapping out the buffer tubes.
If y’all want to scream USSC court cases and “shall not be infringed” in court, that’s your prerogative. I’d rather not be in court at all.
I can’t find anything on the ATF’s site, but I did find this article that states “August 2022” as an implementation date.
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If y’all want to scream USSC court cases and “shall not be infringed” in court, that’s your prerogative. I’d rather not be in court at all.
I can’t find anything on the ATF’s site, but I did find this article that states “August 2022” as an implementation date.
LINK /
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:41 pm to finchmeister08
Wait so the only thing needed to change is a buffer tube? Same brace and everything?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:50 pm to jlovel7
No, I’m removing it entirely. They have a designated configuration with a brace that’s “legal” and within 4 points, but they still have the “authority” to question it. Legally, I know, they really don’t, but I don’t want to have that conversation with the ATF.
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:50 pm to jlovel7
Buffer tube only. Nothing attached to it. Or slid on to it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:56 pm to finchmeister08
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If y’all want to scream USSC court cases and “shall not be infringed” in court, that’s your prerogative. I’d rather not be in court at all.
My attorney says I don't want to be the test case.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:11 pm to finchmeister08
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Someone needs to make a series of flash cards for us simple people to let us know what is legal.
Buffer tube only with roll of duck tape and rmr illegal!!
Buffer tube no rmr legal!!
Stabilizing brace with strap and rmr illegal!
Stabilize brace with rmr and pink foregrip in the shape of a penis legal!!!
Someone needs to make a series of flash cards for us simple people to let us know what is legal.
Buffer tube only with roll of duck tape and rmr illegal!!
Buffer tube no rmr legal!!
Stabilizing brace with strap and rmr illegal!
Stabilize brace with rmr and pink foregrip in the shape of a penis legal!!!
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:13 pm to HeadSlash
Someone correct me if I’m wrong….
The maximum points for section 2 is three points and the maximum points for section 3 is also three points making the total number of points 6 or less. Is that right?
That’s how they have the “legal” configuration set up. There’s a good chance I might be able to keep the Kak Blade installed.
The maximum points for section 2 is three points and the maximum points for section 3 is also three points making the total number of points 6 or less. Is that right?
That’s how they have the “legal” configuration set up. There’s a good chance I might be able to keep the Kak Blade installed.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:33 pm to finchmeister08
I watched part of the subcommittee hearing last week when the republicans tried to add an amendment to exclude braces from the new ASsault weapons bill. The stupid fricking democrats think braces are the same as bump stocks and increase the rate of fire on AR’s. Rep Massie from KY basically called them out as dumbasses. Part of the problem is they don’t know what they are trying to ban and how these parts on guns function. It was like trying to explain the Pythagorean theorem to a toddler.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:45 pm to finchmeister08
quote:I'll say it: you're wrong.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong….
The maximum points for section 2 is three points and the maximum points for section 3 is also three points making the total number of points 6 or less. Is that right?
That’s how they have the “legal” configuration set up. There’s a good chance I might be able to keep the Kak Blade installed.
Go back and look at that form again, and you will see that the ATF reserves the right to declare it illegal, regardless of configuration and points. The only thing the point system does, is to let you think you have a chance.
The KAK blade, as I recall (from doing my own research), is destined to fail. You get a point for having that buffer. You get 2 if you don't have a strap (I have straps btw). But looking at Length of Pull, you have to measure it from the longest possible setup, not where you put it yourself. As I recall, you barely slip inside the last allowable distance, and those points coupled with the buffer, put you over.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:00 pm to Scoob
quote:
Someone correct me if I’m wrong….
The maximum points for section 2 is three points and the maximum points for section 3 is also three points making the total number of points 6 or less. Is that right?
quote:
I'll say it: you're wrong.
look at the sheet again. they have 3 points on page 1 / section 2 and 3 more points on page 2 / section 3. totaling 6 while saying that setup is perfectly legal.
quote:
Go back and look at that form again, and you will see that the ATF reserves the right to declare it illegal, regardless of configuration and points. The only thing the point system does, is to let you think you have a chance.
yeah, i know. it sucks.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:14 pm to finchmeister08
Before there were good braces the best option was to buy a CAA stock saddle and ziptie it over the buffer tube.
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