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re: those of you who have purchased from PSA

Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:22 pm to
Got one. It’s like ordering from China on eBay you get it someday in next month or two but you will get it
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3371 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:38 am to
My last PSA order was delivered about 5 days after ordering
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27368 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:41 am to
Ordered 10 lowers about a month ago. Took 10 days to arrive.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:11 am to
Its hit or miss...I have had some things ship the next day...some after a week or so. I just order and forget about it until I get a tracking email.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:39 am to
assuming I'll have to have a fully assembled firearm
shipped to a dealer, correct?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:43 am to
If you buy a complete rifle yes. If you buy a lower and an upper separately the upper will ship to your house and the lower will have to ship to an FFL.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:47 am to
Are there still companies that offer up lowers that are unfinished and include some sort of die kit to finish the lower? If so, I think that's bs way around the legal way to obtain a lower
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:50 am to
You think laws are BS? It is perfectly legal for any law-abiding citizen to manufacture their own firearm.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 9:52 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:01 am to
Why?
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:02 am to
quote:

You think laws are BS? It is perfectly legal for any law-abiding citizen to manufacture their own firearm.

if an unfinished lower can be shipped to your house then a finished lower should be as well.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:16 am to
an 80% lower isn't a firearm so no FFL or 4473 required. A complete lower is a firearm and therefore has to go to an FFL and get 4473 filled out.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5126 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:04 am to
What parts would you normally order without for 80%?
Kid wants to build one with help but if you can get them assembled upper-lower for that price he should just order and ship, then assemble.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:21 am to
quote:

A complete lower is a firearm and therefore has to go to an FFL and get 4473 filled out.
i know that's the law. How can doing a little clean up machining make a lower considered a "firearm"?
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16531 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:48 am to
Because until you mill it out it's nothing but a chunk of aluminum. Last time I checked aluminum isn't illegal to posess
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Because until you mill it out it's nothing but a chunk of aluminum.






that's just a stupid statement.

Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

that's just a stupid statement.


You can think its a stupid statement but as far as the law is concerned an 80% lower is a "brick of aluminum" and a completely milled lower is a firearm.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

that's just a stupid statement.
What exactly can you do with it without milling out the pocket for the fire control group?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35593 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:23 pm to
What’s that mean?
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:22 pm to
Same could be said about a completed empty lower. Why is that considered a firearm?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Same could be said about a completed empty lower. Why is that considered a firearm?


No you can’t say the same about a completed lower. Putting in a few pins is not “manufacturing”. Milling material out to allow a trigger assembly to be installing is “manufacturing”. the reason manufacturing in in “” is because I’m quoting it as the law sees manufacturing.
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