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re: The Tundra is the best full sized truck on the market. (Change my mind)
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:24 pm to LSUlefty
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:24 pm to LSUlefty
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I see very few Ridgelines on the road. Honda can't be selling many of them.
2017 Ridgeline had more sales than any year in the past decade. They don't make that many like less than 35,000 a year.
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:20 pm to Bedhog
3/4 ton my a$$. You put a medium load on a Tundra and watch the backend squat. Looks like you riding uphill.
Tundra vs F150 frame test
Tundra vs F150 frame test
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:40 pm to weadjust
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2017 Ridgeline had more sales than any year in the past decade. They don't make that many like less than 35,000 a year.
They're dead last among all trucks though
Posted on 4/13/19 at 3:12 pm to KLSU
So we should believe the ford test guy saying his product is superior? Again man, its all my truck is better than your truck talk.
We can all share those type videos.
We can all share those type videos.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 6:10 pm to Bedhog
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Towing ratings is off the charts for a 1/2 ton compared to domestic 1/2 tons
Actually comes in last.
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Configuration Max Towing
2018 Ford F-150 3.5L V6 / 10-speed auto 13,200 lbs
2019 Ram 1500 5.7L V8 / 8-speed auto 12,750 lbs
2019 Chevy Silverado 1500 6.2L V8 / 10-speed auto 12,200 lbs
2018 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V8 / 6-speed auto 10,200 lbs
Posted on 4/13/19 at 6:14 pm to KLSU
If you knew anything about deflection, you'd know that frame deflection is not a bad thing, and Toyota actually designed the Tundra frame to deflect more in certain areas. Think of it as working as part of the suspension. If you don't understand this, look up videos of cargo ships bending in storms. If they didn't have any deflection, they'd snap in half.
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 4/13/19 at 8:53 pm to Bedhog
My 2010 Tundra was the best vehicle i ever owned. I sold it with 214k miles (and bought a 2019) for no other reason other than needing to spend some money before the end of 2018 for business/ tax reasons. It towed my 22' bayboat like it wasn't there, and had no trouble towing my 30' 5th wheel camper (even up to the highest point in Alabama). I put about 25k miles/year on it and was in and out of it, on the road every day i owned it, and couldn't have been happier with the way it rode and handled. Most devoted Tundra owners will admit to the poor gas milage and the dash layout not being as on par with the domestic trucks, but will nearly always brag about the reliability and lack of maintenance. In 8 years of owning that truck, it only went to the shop for oil changes and tire rotations. Based on the milage i put on mine and giving away say 3 mpg to other 1/2 ton trucks, i figure i spent $700 more/year on gas. The way i look at it, i more than made up for that over the time i owned it for lack of having to put it in the shop for anything mechanical/maintenance, not to mention the inconvenience of having be without your work vehicle, carpool, rent a car, etc when you've got something in the shop for days. Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:30 pm to Buck_Rogers
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you knew anything about deflection, you'd know that frame deflection is not a bad thing, and Toyota actually designed the Tundra frame to deflect more in certain areas. Think of it as working as part of the suspension. If you don't understand this, look up videos of cargo ships bending in storms. If they didn't have any deflection, they'd snap in half.
Its not just deflection either, those frames on trucks are not engineered to be a single stand alone unit. They are designed to be put together with all the components of the vehicle just like a home or any other piece of structure
Again, they are all good at this point. You can thank toyota though for making the big 3 in America step its game up.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:44 pm to Butchr
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i figure i spent $700 more/year on gas. The way i look at it, i more than made up for that over the time i owned it for lack of having to put it in the shop for anything mechanical/maintenance, not to mention the inconvenience of having be without your work vehicle,
Do you really think that the avg Chevy, Ford, or Ram owner spends $700/year on repairs/maintenance? Come on man
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:59 pm to Butchr
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The way i look at it, i more than made up for that over the time i owned it for lack of having to put it in the shop for anything mechanical/maintenance,
My Ram has never been in the shop either
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:22 pm to Butchr
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I sold it with 214k miles (and bought a 2019) for no other reason other than needing to spend some money before the end of 2018 for business/ tax reasons.
Could you expand on this a little not sure I understand this reasoning.
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:40 pm to WHATDOINO
No you can’t. They don’t exist.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 12:38 am to highcotton2
When you own a small business and have a successful/profitable year, it makes sense to make it look "less profitable" by spending money on a legit business expense like a new work truck. Especially with the new tax law that allows you to fully depreciate over the 1st year vs. spreading it out over 5 (or so) years. Helps lessen the tax burden for that year.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 7:30 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 8:05 am to Butchr
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When you own a small business and have a successful/profitable year, it makes sense to make it look "less profitable" by spending money on a legit business expense like a new work truck.
You already stated you didn’t need a new truck. It never makes sense to spend $50000 on something you do not need to save $10000 on taxes. I see people post stuff like this all the time.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 9:10 am to highcotton2
Sooo...by that logic, i should hold on to a vehicle with over 200k miles indefinitely (albeit it is running great), and not take advantage of a profitable year while i have cash on hand to upgrade to a new vehicle (and get tax benefits for my business)..and GIVE AWAY several thousand dollars to the IRS that i will never see or be able to use again..
Or keep it for another year, put another 25k miles on it, get less money for it when i sell it, and risk not having as good of a year work wise/profitability (therefore not having the cash on hand for substantial down payment on a new one when i am more likely going to need it most).
Or keep it for another year, put another 25k miles on it, get less money for it when i sell it, and risk not having as good of a year work wise/profitability (therefore not having the cash on hand for substantial down payment on a new one when i am more likely going to need it most).
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 9:23 am to Butchr
You can do what you want I was just pointing out you said you bought a truck just for the the tax benefits. You either need a piece of equipment or you don’t . You never buy something just for the tax benefit.
If you are buying just for the tax benefit you should have bought two of them.
If you are buying just for the tax benefit you should have bought two of them.
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bought a 2019) for no other reason other than needing to spend some money before the end of 2018 for business/ tax reasons
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:12 am to EveryoneGetsATrophy
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How many wrecks do you get in?
A coworker got clipped by a drunk driver in his F150 on his way home to Ruston. He got hit right in front of his driver side rear bumper and slid off the road then rolled down a steep embankment a couple of times. His truck looked like a tin can. He walked away basically with a few missing teeth and bruises. He’ll never buy another type of truck.
When it comes to wrecks I worry about the things I can’t control.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:04 am to YawBaw7
The "average" chevy, ford, ram owner probably puts half the milage/year on it (for personal use) than i do on my tundra (for work use). So that $700/year i'm paying more for in gas is more like $300-400 more for the average driver. So it's not inconceivable to think that over 8 years of owning/ driving the tundra maintenance free, that i'm at least breaking even with maintenance costs on other vehicles. That being said, I'm fortunate enough that most of my fuel is paid for as a business expense...and as previously mentioned, there is a whole other pain in the butt (non-numerical value) of being without your work vehicle, having to rent or share a vehicle, and having to move all of your tools from one vehicle to another so you can still work when the other is down in the shop. That's my justification and it makes sense to me, but not everyone is in the same situation.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:18 am to Butchr
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That's my justification and it makes sense to me, but not everyone is in the same situation.
I get what your saying I was just messing with you. The real reason you bought a new truck was because you knew that damn Toyota had 200000 miles on it and it could lay down at any time. So in reality you really did need a new truck whether there was a tax savings or not.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:36 am to Butchr
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The "average" chevy, ford, ram owner probably puts half the milage/year on it (for personal use) than i do on my tundra (for work use). So that $700/year i'm paying more for in gas is more like $300-400 more for the average driver. So it's not inconceivable to think that over 8 years of owning/ driving the tundra maintenance free, that i'm at least breaking even with maintenance costs on other vehicles
You're not getting it. I'm telling you that I don't spend $700/year on repairs and maintenance on my Silverado.
And yes I put at least 20,000 miles per year on my truck.
It is as maintenance free as your Tundra. I promise you that.
That statement trying to justify spending an extra $700/year on gas is dumb. You could just say that you're a Toyota guy. Or you like the way that they look. But surely you're smart enough to know that other truck owners are not spending $700/year on repairs/maintenance.
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