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re: The Great Outdoors and FISTFIGHTS.......(inspired by boat launch thread)

Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:16 am to
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3789 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:16 am to
i'm too fearful of fricking up my own boat or hurting someone else by passing right on top of someone, some ppl arent like this

if i'm out joyriding and fishing around, i usually take it pretty easy and am courteous to everyone

if i'm fishing a tournament and you're canal isn't posted with a no-wake zone or speed limit, you can be "mad angry man" on the dock all you want...deal with it

pretty much where i stand
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:16 am to
quote:

g = 9.8m/s^2

Therefore, I'm right


/thread


Enjoy those metric units while you can...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87574 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:18 am to
quote:

joyriding
Should be illegal.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:19 am to
Well then, I'll throw in a CSB

Worse wake I ever endured was a big square front work barge or something going down blind river at WOT, like 25 mph or so. We could see the wake coming, jumped down into the bottom of the boat and still almost got thrown out. It was like the water underneath would just disappear and we would fall 2-3 feet.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72292 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:19 am to
Yes you do. It just dies out very quickly. There's equations for this shite

Once you're on plane in the average bass boat, you're on the pad from that speed to 75
Mph and the amount of boat in the water doesnt change as much as your speed does. The wake gets larger as you speed up. It also becomes narrower and dies out quicker.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:20 am to
quote:

if i'm fishing a tournament and you're canal isn't posted with a no-wake zone or speed limit, you can be "mad angry man" on the dock all you want...deal with it


Yea I agree with that. If you're not in a no wake zone, build your shite to compensate for wake.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Should be illegal.

You mad?

I think you mad all those ski boats keep rolling through when you're trying to fish
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87574 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:22 am to
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The wake gets larger as you speed up.
Absolutely false.
Posted by The Sportsman
Member since Mar 2009
13245 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Once you're on plane in the average bass boat, you're on the pad from that speed to 75 Mph and the amount of boat in the water doesnt change as much as your speed does. The wake gets larger as you speed up. It also becomes narrower and dies out quicker.
u never skied or knee boarded or tubed?
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:25 am to
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The wake gets larger as you speed up.


Wow
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87574 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Worse wake I ever endured
The Red has a good bit of tug traffic. When those first appeared, I was not used to their wake. Not the usual side wake, but the rear one. That wave flows back from the boat and is almost impossible to see.

In a tourney flying. See wave about 20 yards before impact. Hit it and I hear prop. Thank God we landed flat. Would love to know how much air we caught.
Posted by The Sportsman
Member since Mar 2009
13245 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:26 am to
It's all about the amount of water being displaced by the boat (ignoring idle speeds)
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Never saw where you mentioned that or we would have agreed. I thought you were the pow pow on the dock spokesperson


Nah, I admittedly know very little about that story. I assumed, as has been my experience in the past, that the tournament guys were tearing through the canal like it was some sort of closed racing circuit. Boats don't have all of the safety equipment that cars do, so they should not be treated like cars.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Once you're on plane in the average bass boat, you're on the pad from that speed to 75
Mph and the amount of boat in the water doesnt change as much as your speed does. The wake gets larger as you speed up. It also becomes narrower and dies out quicker.


Plus, a large portion of the drag is due to the motor cross section.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:30 am to
quote:

u never skied or knee boarded or tubed?


Ski boats and bass boats have entirely different hull geometries and motor designs, so the comparison is not very good.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72292 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:30 am to
The flow around the hull is more turbulent and therefor he wake is larger. I think yall are thinking of it as just the height of the wave you make. How long it is and how far it travels before it is damped out are also parts of it.

Either i am right or my heat transfer professor is wrong.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:34 am to
quote:

The flow around the hull is more turbulent and therefor he wake is larger. I think yall are thinking of it as just the height of the wave you make. How long it is and how far it travels before it is damped out are also parts of it.


This may be slightly misleading. Think of a golf ball. The turbulent boundary provides a more stable wave and reduced drag profile. There is no simple solution, but to say that faster produces a "smaller" wake flies in the face of known science.
Posted by The Sportsman
Member since Mar 2009
13245 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Ski boats and bass boats have entirely different hull geometries and motor designs, so the comparison is not very good.
Jesus frick dude. I grew up doing all that shite behind a bass boat
Posted by McKinneyttu97
McKinney, TX
Member since Mar 2011
541 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:40 am to
back on topic: E. TX has a fella walk down with a shotgun telling us we could fish his dock.

Quickly apologized and moved on to the next dock. Can't argue with someone like that. Idiot.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28762 posts
Posted on 4/26/12 at 10:44 am to
quote:

but to say that faster produces a "smaller" wake flies in the face of known science


That's not the issue, the issue is that as a boat goes faster less of the boat is in the water to create a wake.
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