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re: Terminal performance thread

Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:41 pm to
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7mm is the most well rounded bullet caliber you can shoot.



Id argue that .375 is more versatile but there's too many squishy shouldered corn pile sentries around here to get it.

Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:46 pm to
203mm HE is what you need to put em down where they stand.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:59 pm to
Do they make a shoulder fired 203?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:17 pm to
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If everybody shot a 308 with a core lokt


Funny you say that. My circle of hunting buddies has largely quit using them since they don't exit reliable at high impact speeds. Work great in slow stuff. Work great in fast stuff too, if you dont mind finding the bullet under the hide. Always looks just like the picture on the box. Always seem to shoot great as well. I think they open a little too quickly.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Do they make a shoulder fired 203?

If you are man enough, sure
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:31 pm to
I shoot a 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip loaded hot so it's doing 3250 fps.

I have killed a mountain of deer with this round. I've never had to shoot one twice. I've never had one go more than 100 yards. When I was a kid I shot my first deer with this round but hit him in the last rib broadside. The bullet was under the skin on the other side. When we gutted him, I got a double handful of the liquid goo that filled his body cavity. Literally run your hands through it like it was a slushy. I was spitting out acorns and shite. I've seen it do that a couple more times on shots that were too far back. It's mind blowing to witness and honestly had I not seen it myself I wouldn't believe it.

Needless to say, they tend to just flop over dead with all four feet in the air.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:31 pm to
My dad has a Browning safari .284 win mag. Shot a few deer with it in high school. It’s best round I have ever used on whitetail. Never had a deer run after doing my part. Problem is ammo is almost impossible to find now and I’m not into reloading. It’s also a really rare gun and don’t want to ding up in the woods.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:48 pm to
The 150s or 180s? I have seen what you describe in 30-06 with the 150s and 165s. I could believe a 150 on a short shot and or a longer barrel wouldn’t exit reliably out a 308
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:23 pm to
We had one 180 grain corelokt not exit from a broadside shot. 30-06.
I don’t remember the distance, I wasn’t the shooter.
I couldn’t believe it.

It sucks because I would love to use nothing but regular old corelokts, but we’ve seen too many not exit at the camp, and I want exits.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:27 pm to
I know a deer killer that runs that 125 grain bullet in a 300 Ultra.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7306 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:01 pm to
Son and I are shooting 100 grain TTSXs in our 257 WBYs. Tremendous performance. Of course, I can’t tell much difference between them and the 115 ballistic tips we used to shoot before WBY quit loading them. We never had trouble with ballistic tips, near, far, wherever they are.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:08 pm to
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We had one 180 grain corelokt not exit from a broadside shot. 30-06.


I think the extra speed of a 30-06 is too much for the core lokt, the guys I know using the 30-06 shoot 165s but they only get exits about half the time. The 180s do well in the 308 in my experience but I’ve only got a handful of data points there.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:19 pm to
Forgot to put it but I'm shooting it in a 30-06.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:48 pm to
That’s how this stuff gets to be the root of heated debates. What you describe is purely lethal. But…. the “slushy” performance, with no exit, may still result in a difficult recovery in rough terrain, unless it’s a DRT.

I want a sizable exit (good blood trail) or DRT on each shot. Doesn’t seem like too much to ask, but maybe.

3k fps 130gr cup and cores in a .270win seem to do it reliably. I’ve had more difficulty getting this performance from .308wins and 7-08s.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15111 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:25 pm to
I was worried as well.

We were hunting hardwoods and I was open so we went with it.

It left a good blood trail at that range.

Therebwas so much internal damage it didn't go farm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:00 pm to
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think the extra speed of a 30-06 is too much for the core lokt,


Seems if you want it to exit, the 140gr 6.5x55 always did for me. 170gr from .30-30 always did. Seems once you get up around 2700+ fps it starts getting spotty.

That said, I have a good many of 250gr ones for my 338 and I dont worry about any whitetail containing those.
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:01 pm to
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I don’t think I’ve ever read a negative experience from nosler ballistic tips. I need to try some of those.

My favorite since being convinced by a guide to try them.

Sako 85 270 wsm.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6557 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:41 pm to
It could. But in my lifetime of killing dozens of whitetails for many decade with this thing in Louisiana and Texas, that is a fear I've yet to actually see happen in real life. I'm a good shot as a general rule, but this round makes the kill zone much larger and it's saved me a few times. Tracking has never been an issue as it usually blows a hole out the other side of them two fist wide. The times it hasn't, they dropped in their tracks.

So that's not a real problem.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1386 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:09 am to
I run Hornady American Whitetail or Federal Fusions (depending on what shoots best) because the price to ratio is high…. they flat work and in my experience, one of them will shoot out of the box. The only exception is my .35 Whelen and I shoot Accubonds or TTSX - they are both the hammer of god lol. Also, I have good luck with Sierra Game King and Norma Oryx.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7306 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:51 am to
On Sunday afternoon, I shot a 240 pound buck standing broadside at 85 yards. Double lung, 300 WBY, 180 Accubond. The buck rose up in the front in and I thought he was going to fall over. He made it 60 yards into the CRP. Lots of blood to the deer. The bullet passed through. This is the same combo I killed an elk with in October. If you want pass throughs, any of the 300 magnums is the answer. I love the extra horsepower on big bodied bucks. Not all that fun to shoot.

135 pound doe, broadside. 7mm-08 shooting 139 grain hornady SST. Bullet was a mushroom against the far side hide. Never saw blood on the ground, but the doe was laying out there at about fifty yards. Jury is still out on that bullet for me. I’ll probably try to get some Accubonds for it.
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