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re: Teague's Ongoing Hawk /Falconry Thread - renamed for clarity

Posted on 10/23/12 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 8:40 am to
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Do they ever lose they battle? Do they get killed often by the prey? Obviously a rabbit wouldnt be much of a threat, but snakes? And the you tube someone posted the other day had them going after crazy huge stuff, what all are they capable of killing?



They lose more than they win, usually. But, most of the time, that just means the prey escapes. Injuries happen. Squirrels have a nasty bite that has even been known to sever toes or tendons in the toes. Venomous snakes can be an issue, but it's pretty rare. Last year my hawk mugged another red tail and took his squirrel. She ended up with the squirrel and some puncture wounds on her upper leg.

MOST of the hawks commonly used in the US are reluctant to chase anything larger than a rabbit. Jackrabbits out west can weigh over 15lbs and it sometimes takes a lot of convincing to get some hawks to attempt them. It really depends on what kind of bird you're flying. For a Kestrel, a dove is huge prey. For a red tail, a swamp rabbit is big.

There are always exceptions. Hawks gain confidence from hunting with people who help them dispatch prey. Especially hawks that are captive bred. They'll sometimes attack dogs. I've heard stories of them killing turkeys, beavers, groundhogs, and even binding to deer, although obviously they didn't kill the deer. There is the famous youtube video of a golden eagle killing a deer. But, I think that's pretty rare, and it looks like a very small deer. Although, they will do it in the wild in some cases. And they do hunt wolves with them in mongolia.


But, you have to remember that a very large red tailed hawk weighs about 3 1/2 lbs. Average size is less than 3lbs. So, even a large cottontail rabbit can outweigh them. The largest eagle weighs less than 20lbs.
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 6:33 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:03 pm to
Thanks for the answer
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:44 pm to
Appreciate the explanations. I am all too familiar with squirrel bites. Ive been bit twice. Once in the thumb and once in the pointer finger. They crack nuts with ease for a reason.
Posted by Teague
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:29 pm to
Couple of quick photos and another short video from today. He's doing better. Hoping to be hunting by this weekend.





Birdie
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 8:32 pm
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by lsushelly
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:05 pm to
I am continually amazed and impressed by the beauty of this bird. The "Don't Tread On Me" facial expression...the flying sequences...and well, he's just a dang beautiful bird...
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 9:34 pm
Posted by TigerPimpNationTrank
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:15 pm to
Teague....that is completely bad a$$. Props to you for having the patience at this craft.

Posted by BayouBandit24
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Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:06 am to
He looks upset in the second pic
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/25/12 at 6:31 am to
Thanks, Guys!


quote:

He looks upset in the second pic


I think he was hoping some food would magically appear under his feet.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:26 pm to
Not exactly what I had in mind, but Hawkeye caught his first head of "game" today.



Nasty little bastard will eat anything.
This post was edited on 11/1/12 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Fap-n-Nap
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Hawkeye caught his first head of "game" today.


I assume that's an opposum?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I assume that's an opposum?


It is indeed an ole 'possum. Not exactly respectable game, but at least he's aggressive. It outweighed him at least 2-1.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:50 pm to
Starting to catch on.



Posted by MOT
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 4:04 pm to
That squirrel looks like it weighs 20 pounds.

Very cool. He (she?) needs some "Deal With It" glasses put in place of the other thing.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 4:55 pm to
It was a big squirrel. We have a lot more grays up here, but 2 of the 3 squirrels he chased today were fox squirrels.
Posted by CajunCowboy35
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:11 pm to


that is awesome
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:26 pm to


That is really bad arse, even if he does look goofy as hell with the head cover on. Nice diving hawk sticker on the truck.

Is there a specific hunting season with hawks? Obviously you're hunting small game, but I was wondering if there's a hawk season to go along with a rifle season, bow season etc or is it just up to the individual to find the land to hunt on?

Nice to see this thread get bumped, I was reminded of the hawk hunter guy just yesterday after I almost tripped over the biggest damn female red tail I have ever seen.

Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:48 pm to
Much respect to you sir.
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