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re: Teague's New Falconry/Hawking Thread

Posted on 12/10/13 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3366 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 3:36 pm to
Just had a hawk smoke a dove mid air out here(offshore). Dove hit the water and the hawk couldn't get it again




:(. We been feeding that dove all week
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 3:38 pm to
Way to cool. Not many things impress me when it comes to the outdoors, but this does.

So, can you hunt them year round? I know dam well I would.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 4:04 pm to
Your boy took out a nice little rabbit.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

are they "tame" enough for a stranger and or your kids to pet them?




Well, they're always wild animals. They're never pets. But, most of them will tame down enough for other people to touch them. But, it varies from bird to bird.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

So, can you hunt them year round? I know dam well I would.




Nah, not really. You pretty much have to follow the hunting season of whatever you're hunting. We do get a month longer than gun hunters do for rabbits and squirrels. Technically, you COULD hunt in the summer. If your hawk catches something that is out of season there's the "let it lie" law - meaning, the hawk can eat as much as it wants, but you have to leave the rest of it there. But, they're growing new feathers in the summer, so they need to be kept fat, and if they're fat, they won't come back to you.
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 5:54 pm to
Nice hawk

Now get you a cool hat
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:28 am to
quote:

Now get you a cool hat



That IS a cool hat. It may be reserved for wolf hunters though. I'm not sure my gopro would fit on it anyway.
Posted by fishfighter
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40026 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:41 am to
If you were closer, I would like to meet you and learn a bit more on Falconry.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15960 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:23 am to
quote:

if you were closer, I would like to meet you and learn a bit more on Falconry.


There are several guys in and around BR that do it. They recently put on a demostration for my son's cub scout pack.
Posted by Merica
'Merica
Member since Mar 2013
1156 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:29 am to
Everytime I see that Dr. Pepper 10 commercial I think of Teague
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15960 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:01 am to
I am going to start by acknowledging that I did not read the original thread. How much does a bird like that cost up front and how much annually to maintaine?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:17 am to
quote:

How much does a bird like that cost up front and how much annually to maintaine?


It depends on the species and how you get it. This bird was trapped from the wild. The sport is very strictly regulated, and apprentices were required to trap their first hawk from the wild. This is changing, however, as the new federal regulations take effect. Some states now allow apprentices to buy a bird. Red tails generally aren't bred in the US, because they're readily available from the wild, and honestly, those are easier to deal with than a captive bred one. Other species (harris hawks, goshawks, peregrines, etc.) can range from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars.

Yearly maintenance - varies greatly again. I catch enough game that I don't have to buy food. I spent around $700 building my mews (hawk house). Vet bills can be very expensive if the bird gets sick. Your license has to be renewed every 3 years - I think I paid around $100 for mine, but that may be changing with the new regulations as well.

It really costs a lot more in time and commitment than it does in money, although it CAN be quite expensive in dollars if you want.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15960 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:22 am to
Great sport. Please post more.
Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
7629 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:55 pm to
How do you go about trapping a hawk to train? I've got to do this!! My brother owns a few good squirrel dogs and I can't wait to smoke those hounds with my badass Hawk!!
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:10 pm to
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How do you go about trapping a hawk to train?


First, you find somebody to go hunting with and see if you like it. Then, you beg a general or master falconer to be your sponsor for two years. Then you build a minimum 8X8X8' building for your hawk to live in, and buy/make all the other equipment you need. Then you study for the written exam and pass the federal/state test administered by your state wildlife agency. Then your facilities must pass inspection. Then, depending on your state, you apply for a trapping permit. Then the guy that agreed to sponsor you takes you out during the approved trapping season and helps you trap a hawk. Easy peasy.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:29 pm to
But I want one now!

Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
7629 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

How do you go about trapping a hawk to train?



You didn't answer my question I just finished reading your thread last year. This shite is awesome!
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

You didn't answer my question


Sure, I did. It's a process. If you get started on that list now, you could have your very own hawk by next fall.

But seriously, I don't want to post to specifics of trapping on a public forum. The info is out there, but it's best kept to sites that are devoted to falconry in order to weed out some of the random morons that might come across it.

quote:

This shite is awesome!


Thanks. It's a lot of fun. But, like anything else, you get out of it what you put in. You have to REALLY like falconry to be really successful at it.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7430 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:44 pm to
Can you take a hawk to a normal vet?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:49 pm to
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Can you take a hawk to a normal vet?


Most of them won't treat hawks (or other wild animals either). I don't know if they need a special permit, or what. I called every vet anywhere near Huntsville, and I've only found two willing to treat hawks. They can do basic stuff. For anything major I have to go to Birmingham.
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