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re: Teaching a dog to track deer. Edit: added a video
Posted on 3/4/20 at 8:16 pm to tke_swamprat
Posted on 3/4/20 at 8:16 pm to tke_swamprat
Gotta get you a box pheromones.
Joking aside, I would do like what is mentioned above. I always use a collar with bells. When that collar goes on he knows what his job is.
Joking aside, I would do like what is mentioned above. I always use a collar with bells. When that collar goes on he knows what his job is.
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Posted on 3/4/20 at 9:09 pm to Jvalhenson
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Did a little reading about that and apparently it is something about a stress hormone or something that the deer releases when injured that the dog or any other predator can key on aside from blood. So even with no blood trial the dog can(doesnt mean always will) still pick out the scent from the shot deer.
bullshite. The experts here assured me that dogs track blood and not the deer.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:02 am to saintsfan1977
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bullshite. The experts here assured me that dogs track blood and not the deer.
Can’t bottle a stress hormone to practice with so you train with blood. Dogs nose has a couple hundred more olfactory receptors than a humans so he will recognize the blood and probably several other things about that deer that he uses to identify the scent of that deer. I’ve never met anybody who thought blood was the only thing the dog could smell, but I have met some who believed that if you train a deer on hide then it wouldn’t be able to differentiate between the shot deer and others
Posted on 3/5/20 at 6:50 am to saintsfan1977
If I remember right, you said they only go on pheromones and don’t pay attention to blood. I believe you said you don’t have to train a dog to find deer, and a dog that wouldn’t isn’t worth a crap
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:11 am to tke_swamprat
Don't drag a hide unless you want a deer dog. Use only blood if you want a blood tracking dog. Use a bell also on his collar when tracking, it teaches him when to go to work.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:03 am to Outdoorreb
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If I remember right, you said they only go on pheromones and don’t pay attention to blood. I believe you said you don’t have to train a dog to find deer, and a dog that wouldn’t isn’t worth a crap
No. I said a dog doesn't need blood to track a shot deer and that's a fact that a few here don't believe. Dogs don't trail blood. Never have. You shouldn't need to train a dog to find a shot deer. The dog already knows as soon as you bring him to the spot. Whether it wants to find it is a different story and that's where training comes in.
Most hunting dogs or dogs with a high prey drive don't need training at all. They will immediately trail the shot deer.
Here's the thing : you lay a blood trail out and have a dog track it. How do you know that the dog isn't tracking you and not the blood?
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:11 am to saintsfan1977
When I picked up my dog, the trainer had his daughter put a q-tip in her hair and twirl it, she walked 20' and pitched it, then walked off. He put my dog on the q-tip and he found here several hundred yards away through a field and woods with no problem. Dogs track a scent, not just blood, you can train them to track anything. My dog is bird crazy, he would drag birds around while training, then drag a squirrel tail. Showed my dog what he wanted trailed, and he did it. You don't need blood to train a dog to trail a deer.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:15 am to tke_swamprat
When you get deer blood (or beef blood from a butcher), pour it into an ice cube tray and freeze it. When you are ready to train, take one of the blood ice cubes and put it in a spray bottle. Add water to make the ratio about 1:10 of blood to water. Now you can make your trails with the spray bottle and keep it in the fridge when you are not using it.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:33 am to weisertiger
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:40 am to saintsfan1977
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:55 am to Jvalhenson
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sarcasm here or what....another post sounds like you agree with the stress scent or whatever it is completely ha. I know for sure I have had dogs find deer for people without any blood from high hit head on chest shots that just did not bleed at all. Not even blood on the hair at the entry hole and no exit so def none on the ground
No there was a thread where a bunch of morons said the dog tracks blood. I disagreed and got made fun of like a few posts up.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:57 am to KillingTime
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Don't drag a hide unless you want a deer dog. Use only blood if you want a blood tracking dog. Use a bell also on his collar when tracking, it teaches him when to go to work.
Dog whisperer?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:59 am to tke_swamprat
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:01 am to saintsfan1977
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:09 am to saintsfan1977
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A good dog will. OP doesn't have a good dog. Probably a good pet but it sucks at being a dog if it couldn't find a deer that only ran 45-80 yds. There is no excuse in the world for that. If anyone says it needs training they are FOS. A dog doesn't need training to use its nose.
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:56 am to Outdoorreb
I know what I said.
What does the quote supposed to prove?
What does the quote supposed to prove?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:25 pm to tke_swamprat
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:27 pm to Jvalhenson
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:38 pm to Jvalhenson
You are correct about trusting a dog. I pulled one off a giant that a friend shot with his bow. We all thought the deer would live because we tracked him a mile with hardly any blood. He found the deer in March within 80 yards of where we pulled my dog off the trail. Scored over 180. That one hurt pretty bad.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:12 pm to Jvalhenson
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