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re: State Record Typical?

Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by freshtigerbait
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
279 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:47 pm to
i am not gonna deny that
Posted by freshtigerbait
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
279 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:51 pm to
Ok, if killed at dewey, chances of it getting poached are significantly lower?
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
6753 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:58 pm to
I can’t answer that. Just saying that there will always be detractors when a big buck is killed. Sometimes well founded.

Just saw a pic of a Louisiana buck with a 27” main beam and a 15” tine. Wow
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22418 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:02 pm to


"Tyler Jordan arrowed this 186-inch Georgia buck on Realtree Farms. A testament to their team’s hard work managing and improving the land, it’s the best whitetail they’ve taken there in two decades. (Photo courtesy of Tyler Jordan)"

Interesting how similar the rack looks...moving some DNA around?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16305 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:26 pm to
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Interesting how similar the rack looks...moving some DNA around?
semen harvesters you say??
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16305 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:27 pm to
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I had a lot of fun buying his ex-wife drinks a few times in Natchez
RIP Dimples
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6916 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:36 pm to
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under grey areas of "free range" "low fence" rules yet are "landlocked" for lack of a better term and have 90-100% control of population, Taking into consideration a multitude of factors from impassable man made structures, bodies of water, mountain ranges, total acreage, etc


This is silly. I’m not a fan of the way this buck was watched, protected, and killed for commercial purposes, however who are you to decide that some deer aren’t as free range as others. If there’s not a high fence, we have to say it’s free range. Deer are capable of traveling a long way, swimming large waterbodies, and moving. Just because it’s a big property or bordered by a river doesn’t mean it’s not a wild animal.
Posted by Tank015
Member since May 2024
20 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:38 pm to
Just my opinion as a few others have said. Alot of people are jealous of this deer because of who shot it and how. The real accomplishment here is that of the HB team and growing a 200" gross TYPICAL whitetail in central Louisiana. A deer that will more than likely break the LA state typical record that has stood since 1939 (1943 depending on who's asking). Also, HB isn't landlocked. Sure, it is a massive piece of private land that is extensively managed, but it isn't land locked. These deer are still subject to predation, disease, vehicles and poaching just like any other hunting property. HB, as well as other private landowners in the region grow and harvests many impressive, mature bucks every year on their property, but it takes a very special animal to reach this caliber.

For those of you wondering, below are the measurements before drying period. PS, I didn't check the math. These are from the score sheet the night of.
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Gross 203 / Net 192 3/8

Abnormal Points: 7 1/8
ISS: 19 5/8
Right Left
MB: 26 4/8 26 4/8
G1: 5 2/8 5
G2: 10 8 6/8
G3: 12 7/8 13 5/8
G4: 12 11 6/8
G5: 8 2/8 7 4/8
H1: 5 2/8 5 1/8
H2: 5 1/8 4 7/8
H3: 5 1/8 5
H4: 5 1/8 4 5/8
Total:83 4/8 92 6/8
Difference: 10 7/8
Posted by Goldensammy
Cypress, TX
Member since Jun 2016
882 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:53 pm to
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This is silly. I’m not a fan of the way this buck was watched, protected, and killed for commercial purposes, however who are you to decide that some deer aren’t as free range as others. If there’s not a high fence, we have to say it’s free range. Deer are capable of traveling a long way, swimming large waterbodies, and moving. Just because it’s a big property or bordered by a river doesn’t mean it’s not a wild animal


Agreed. I frequent a place (not LA or MS) that totals more than 20,000 acres, with miles of river frontage. It's a working ranch/farm/whatever you want to call it. Anyway, it is as free range as it gets. They kill some huge deer, but not every year. Not because they don't want to, but because those big arse old bucks are hard to kill. If they could figure out how to keep big bucks on the property, other than a fence, it would have been done yesterday. Deer cross the river all the time, particularly during the rut, and there is nothing that can stop that. A couple years back, the farmers son, who grew up on the property but hadn't hunted it in many years (moved off), went to sit with his pops for old times sake. Shot a +200 (gross, cause nets are for fishing). That same deer hadn't been seen on the property before, as far as anyone knows. Folks a mile or two away had the deer on camera the same morning. It was nothing but high fives and congratulations all around. Some folks were jealous, of course, but who wouldn't be.


Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22418 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:43 pm to
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who are you to decide that some deer aren’t as free range as others


We can all have personal opinions though that are our own.

If you were going to basically ‘high fence’ raise a deer a place like HB and many others are the place it could be done. I don’t know the details, but let’s admit they had every resource, opportunity, motivation, etc to basically fence raise deer here in ‘free range’ conditions.

HB and co are not helping themselves by having a Jordan fly in and shoot it with a rifle.

I’m not hating, trophy animals are often hunted and raised in questionable manners. I’m simply pointing out there’s very little here that points to natural innocence, and that’s not our fault.

Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16305 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:06 pm to
How did HB even come about? How did a couple ol dirt farmers build such a place?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2104 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:54 pm to
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HB and co are not helping themselves by having a Jordan fly in and shoot it with a rifle.

Shoot. Bidding just went up for the next lease, contract, or whatever arrangement they’re making.
Posted by Uncle Arch
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2014
36 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:51 pm to
I rarely post so flame away. Grew up hunting with dogs in the spillway, but have done pay hunts and high fence with no regret. Duck hunted a lot in the 80’s/90’s and have watched that devolve. Wasn’t HB built for ducks? As a landowner and businessman if my market dies and I find I have great whitetail potential what a gift. No one seemed to hate on Giles Island other than the price. I live in TX so probably have a different perspective. This is 20,000 acres? You should see what some of these folks do with 3-5,000 acres of low fence here. I get there are a lot of different opinions. I’m just ecstatic to see a monster no fence deer come out of LA.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:00 pm to
What does Honey Brake charge for a trophy deer hunt? No prices listed on their website.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32887 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:10 pm to
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What does Honey Brake charge for a trophy deer hunt? No prices listed on their website.


Might as well imagine that place doesn't exist if you have to ask.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:19 pm to
Just wondering how much RealTree paid for Tyler's hunt. $30K i would guess.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16305 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:25 pm to
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What does Honey Brake charge for a trophy deer hunt? No prices listed on their website.
call and ax them, please report back. I’d imagine their phone is ringing off the wall.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:08 pm to
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Congrats on the deer Tyler


shite, I wish I was him right now.
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:30 pm to
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I FEEL that the board of directors that govern each "trophy" or "record" organization should take into deep consideration, to not include places like HB and prob 2-3 more I could name in Louisiana that I've been a part of and probably 100 plus in Texas that fall under geographical anomalies that allow them to fall under grey areas of "free range" "low fence" rules yet are "landlocked" for lack of a better term and have 90-100% control of population, Taking into consideration a multitude of factors from impassable man made structures, bodies of water, mountain ranges, total acreage, etc.


This is unquestionably one of the dumbest things that I have ever read outside of the nonsense after one LSU baseball loses on the Tiger Rant. Taking HB out for a minute. You are basically saying that all of the best deer hunting in the Southeast (Mississippi River Islands) should be eliminated from the main record books because they are more conducive to killing big deer? Nevermind the fact that they are also the best and most fertile habitat.

Also, deer have no trouble moving across large bodies of water. Also, what is a large body of water anyway?? A river. Go look up the story on the deer that swam across the MS every year for 3 or 4 years in a row. Obviously an outlier but still. Lakes don't qualify for obvious reasons that they can easily slip around them. Also, I promise you there is nothing around HB that a deer can't handle. If you're referencing Shad or Larto, neither border HB.

And - you didn't specifically mention it in this last post, but I've seen levees mentioned? Haha what? Deer don't move over levees. Since when?

What is a man-made impassible structure? A high fence? Those properties are already DQ'd.

You basically said that unless you border a WMA where all deer are publicly accessible then there should be a different standard. I'd argue the alternative that those types of properties benefit greatly from a bunch of jacklegs pushing deer onto the adjoining private property.

I mean come on man.
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:39 pm to
As stated multiple times on this thread. They didn't pay anything for this particular hunt. For all intents and purposes HB is Realtree's property for deer hunting. It's just like a lease, but HB can still sell hunts to other people.

I couldn't have cared less about Realtree or Tyler before this deer was killed. I do Like following HB because I grew up hunting on North Delta a couple hundred yards from the property. But, the complete disregard for information and baseless statements offered as fact in this thread is something to behold.

Just hunters hating on other hunters due to jealousy. Guess there's nothing new to see here unfortunately.
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