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Spinoff- Ciceroing

Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:03 am
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:03 am
I have duck hunted all of my life, all over the globe, yet never heard this term. I looked around on the net and have a pretty good idea now what it means now. I was interested in knowing the genesis of the term. Why "Cicero"ing?
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1077 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:27 am to
I’m no duck hunter but my first thought is that it references back to the Roman politician and orator Cicero. Cicero has a long and complex history and is responsible for much of what we know about the Roman world.

He’s perhaps best known for holding the empire together through revolt and advocating for a return to Rome’s historical Republican principles during the time when Julius Caesar first came to power and the Republic was transformed into an autocracy. The Roman world’s equivalent of a conservative, if you will.

So, if someone is “Cicero’ing” a blind, they’re making the case that the historical practice of who hunts that blind is sufficient reason for them to continue hunting it. Just as Cicero argued that the historical strength of Rome lay in its founding as a Republic, as reason enough for that practice to continue.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34515 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:44 am to
When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it. If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:26 am to
quote:

When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it.


while this is admirable and should be taught, you are not going to find many open spots without a blind on any popular duck hunting spot these days

quote:

If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.


this isn't really comparable to public land duck blinds as the duck blinds never move, at least most of them don't

you could come back and fish that same spot the next day and no one will be there

the duck blind will still be there

its the equivalent of anchoring your boat at a spot and claiming no one else can ever fish there because your boat is there
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:26 am to
Thank you for the reply. I am also a student of Roman history, but that is a lot of credit to be giving Louisiana duck hunters.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57142 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:36 am to
quote:

If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.


This.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5121 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:42 am to
There's some true Einstein Baws on Catahoula Lake.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:48 am to
I have heard nothing about how this season went in relation to the court case. Any stories?
Posted by Babewinkelman
Member since Jan 2015
1259 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:52 am to
The opposite of Jodying
Posted by SquirrelBones
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
392 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:55 am to
That's the Catahoula term for it.

I've done it countless times when the water is acting crazy out there. When the blind "owner" pulls up, I get out, no big deal. I've only had 1 person get aggravated with me in my all my times of doing this. It's usually a friendly exchange asking what we're seeing, if we've shot anything, etc.

I've had people cicero our spots numerous times, and 98% of the time it's a friendly exchange.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Ciceroing
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63878 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:20 pm to
True or False-

Cicero-ing means an old timer who has been hunting in and keeping up a public blind has an unspoken right to it, he is the one "ciceroing" the blind.

I'm just trying to make sure I understand this.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:25 pm to
No, to cicero means that you are hunting in a blind that you didn't build over a spread that's not yours, on public water.

If said owner shows up, you offer to leave without issue, and occasionally, he'll invite you to stay and hunt with.

Generally not frowned on too bad IF you don't jack up the brush/trash the blind/shoot up the dekes.

Those things happen way too often and ciceros are usually looked upon with at least some skepticism until proven decent.


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63878 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:27 pm to
So the cicero is the usurper. Got it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63878 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:28 pm to
Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30452 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:37 pm to
weren't the cicero's one of the original families that settled sicily island?
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:01 pm to
quote:


Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?

No, it’s an expected practice though.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:01 pm to
I'm not too sure about that, don't think so.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5134 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it. If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.


This person is known as a “potlicker” or “crumbsnatcher”
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?

It doesn't really apply.
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