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Spinoff- Ciceroing
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:03 am
I have duck hunted all of my life, all over the globe, yet never heard this term. I looked around on the net and have a pretty good idea now what it means now. I was interested in knowing the genesis of the term. Why "Cicero"ing?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:27 am to Priapus
I’m no duck hunter but my first thought is that it references back to the Roman politician and orator Cicero. Cicero has a long and complex history and is responsible for much of what we know about the Roman world.
He’s perhaps best known for holding the empire together through revolt and advocating for a return to Rome’s historical Republican principles during the time when Julius Caesar first came to power and the Republic was transformed into an autocracy. The Roman world’s equivalent of a conservative, if you will.
So, if someone is “Cicero’ing” a blind, they’re making the case that the historical practice of who hunts that blind is sufficient reason for them to continue hunting it. Just as Cicero argued that the historical strength of Rome lay in its founding as a Republic, as reason enough for that practice to continue.
He’s perhaps best known for holding the empire together through revolt and advocating for a return to Rome’s historical Republican principles during the time when Julius Caesar first came to power and the Republic was transformed into an autocracy. The Roman world’s equivalent of a conservative, if you will.
So, if someone is “Cicero’ing” a blind, they’re making the case that the historical practice of who hunts that blind is sufficient reason for them to continue hunting it. Just as Cicero argued that the historical strength of Rome lay in its founding as a Republic, as reason enough for that practice to continue.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:44 am to Snazzmeister
When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it. If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:26 am to ChenierauTigre
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When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it.
while this is admirable and should be taught, you are not going to find many open spots without a blind on any popular duck hunting spot these days
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If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.
this isn't really comparable to public land duck blinds as the duck blinds never move, at least most of them don't
you could come back and fish that same spot the next day and no one will be there
the duck blind will still be there
its the equivalent of anchoring your boat at a spot and claiming no one else can ever fish there because your boat is there
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:26 am to Snazzmeister
Thank you for the reply. I am also a student of Roman history, but that is a lot of credit to be giving Louisiana duck hunters.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:36 am to ChenierauTigre
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If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.
This.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:42 am to Priapus
There's some true Einstein Baws on Catahoula Lake.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:48 am to KemoSabe65
I have heard nothing about how this season went in relation to the court case. Any stories?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:55 am to Priapus
That's the Catahoula term for it.
I've done it countless times when the water is acting crazy out there. When the blind "owner" pulls up, I get out, no big deal. I've only had 1 person get aggravated with me in my all my times of doing this. It's usually a friendly exchange asking what we're seeing, if we've shot anything, etc.
I've had people cicero our spots numerous times, and 98% of the time it's a friendly exchange.
I've done it countless times when the water is acting crazy out there. When the blind "owner" pulls up, I get out, no big deal. I've only had 1 person get aggravated with me in my all my times of doing this. It's usually a friendly exchange asking what we're seeing, if we've shot anything, etc.
I've had people cicero our spots numerous times, and 98% of the time it's a friendly exchange.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:20 pm to Priapus
True or False-
Cicero-ing means an old timer who has been hunting in and keeping up a public blind has an unspoken right to it, he is the one "ciceroing" the blind.
I'm just trying to make sure I understand this.
Cicero-ing means an old timer who has been hunting in and keeping up a public blind has an unspoken right to it, he is the one "ciceroing" the blind.
I'm just trying to make sure I understand this.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:25 pm to deeprig9
No, to cicero means that you are hunting in a blind that you didn't build over a spread that's not yours, on public water.
If said owner shows up, you offer to leave without issue, and occasionally, he'll invite you to stay and hunt with.
Generally not frowned on too bad IF you don't jack up the brush/trash the blind/shoot up the dekes.
Those things happen way too often and ciceros are usually looked upon with at least some skepticism until proven decent.
If said owner shows up, you offer to leave without issue, and occasionally, he'll invite you to stay and hunt with.
Generally not frowned on too bad IF you don't jack up the brush/trash the blind/shoot up the dekes.
Those things happen way too often and ciceros are usually looked upon with at least some skepticism until proven decent.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:27 pm to Huntinguy
So the cicero is the usurper. Got it.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:28 pm to Huntinguy
Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:37 pm to deeprig9
weren't the cicero's one of the original families that settled sicily island?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:01 pm to deeprig9
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Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?
No, it’s an expected practice though.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:01 pm to choupiquesushi
I'm not too sure about that, don't think so.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:42 pm to ChenierauTigre
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When we were growing up we were taught to respect people's property/territory/whatever you want to call it. If someone was fishing in a spot, you slowed down and went somewhere else. Nowadays, if you are fishing a spot people will knock you out of the water to fish right on top of you.
This person is known as a “potlicker” or “crumbsnatcher”
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:51 pm to deeprig9
quote:It doesn't really apply.
Is this a respected practice for hunting deer/turkey on public land?
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