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So I finally gave up on the front yard...Having it ripped up and replaced...
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:05 am
I'm going from centipede-ish to St. Aug. What can the resident turfologists and horticultural elites of the OB tell me about St. Aug, how often it'll need watering, mowing heights, etc?
I use an old-school reel lawnmower that is adjustable but I'm curious as to what height I should use for St. Aug.
No pics of old yard because I'm just too ashamed.
I use an old-school reel lawnmower that is adjustable but I'm curious as to what height I should use for St. Aug.
No pics of old yard because I'm just too ashamed.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:08 am to GFunk
I had St. Aug and switched it to Empire Zoysia. Slower growing so If I miss a cutting it's not so bad when I do cut it.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:09 am to GFunk
If everything aligns up perfectly St. Aug is great however this rarely happens. Takes too much water, chinch bugs especially can kill it, can't walk on it too much, too much sun is bad, too much water is bad....I have & I hate it.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:14 am to GFunk
i slacked on my yard last year, besides the weeds everywhere, i need to attack all the insects aka ants everywhere. Out of control.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:18 am to GFunk
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how often it'll need watering, mowing heights, etc?
I'd mow as high as possible. 2.5"-3.5" range should be just fine. Obviously you will need more water in the warmer months and less in the cooler months. Nightly irrigation in the amount of 0.10"-0.20" should suffice.
Keep the blades as sharp as possible if using a reel mower.
Keep a good edge around the perimeter to avoid any possible bermudagrass from overtaking. Especially neighbors yards, if applicable.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:21 am to Chad504boy
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i need to attack all the insects aka ants everywhere. Out of control.
Talstar Granular. Usually do two applications a year.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:24 am to ThatMakesSense
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Nightly irrigation in the amount of 0.10"-0.20" should suffice.
IMO that's WAY too much
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Keep a good edge around the perimeter to avoid any possible bermudagrass from overtaking. Especially neighbors yards, if applicable.
Some Bermuda can get in your yard by being blown there by the wind
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:26 am to Wtodd
I've got a neighbor who put it in about a year or so after he moved in and for two years it's made me jealous. When I say that I can't do worse than what I have now, I truly mean it.
Had some weed problems mid-summer. Researched for a chemical to spray that wouldn't impact surrounding grass but would eliminate the weeds. Relied on a good friend who worked for a custom chemical company specializing in horticultural stuff.
I'm sure you can guess where this story goes from here: The weeds thrived, the grass-and even the underlying thatch-died off like I sprayed roundup or some sh!t.
At any rate, there's also some drainage issues from the side of the house down towards the front yard itself. There were some high points that created poor-if not outright non-existent-drainage issues on the side yard and kept the front yard bone dry.
So I'll be regrading as well as installing turf.
Had some weed problems mid-summer. Researched for a chemical to spray that wouldn't impact surrounding grass but would eliminate the weeds. Relied on a good friend who worked for a custom chemical company specializing in horticultural stuff.
I'm sure you can guess where this story goes from here: The weeds thrived, the grass-and even the underlying thatch-died off like I sprayed roundup or some sh!t.
At any rate, there's also some drainage issues from the side of the house down towards the front yard itself. There were some high points that created poor-if not outright non-existent-drainage issues on the side yard and kept the front yard bone dry.
So I'll be regrading as well as installing turf.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:33 am to GFunk
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regrading
I'd be interested to know how you are going to do this. I have some bad spots in my yard from dogs digging that need to be leveled.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:56 am to GFunk
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I use an old-school reel lawnmower that is adjustable but I'm curious as to what height I should use for St. Aug.
Can you even reel mow St Aug? thats some thick stuff.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:57 am to GFunk
Sounds like a "re-do" is in order it's just that I hate St. Aug bc it's so high maintenance
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:34 am to Wtodd
I'm in the same boat. Really old yard when I moved in 10 summers ago. I kept it looking good for about 5 years, but it didn't need much other than cutting/edging and occasionally watering. We have a huge oak out front, and all the grass under it has died. I trimmed back some low branches two years ago to give it some light, but it never grew back in even with me seeding. We're at the point now where I either need to drop the tree and sod, or take up the brick border under it and do one that goes out farther and just plant shrubs in there instead of grass. Our area is hilly as well so we get runoff. Down in the yard it looks great, but all the rain doesn't soak in up top and that's where I have trouble getting it to grow.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:53 pm to GFunk
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tell me about St. Aug
If you're starting over... go with zoysia.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:56 pm to Floating Change Up
St. Aug will get bermuda mixed in and there is no poison that will kill the bermuda and not the St. Aug. At least that is what my lawn guy told me.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:26 pm to TU Rob
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TU Rob
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I'm in the same boat. Really old yard when I moved in 10 summers ago. I kept it looking good for about 5 years, but it didn't need much other than cutting/edging and occasionally watering. We have a huge oak out front, and all the grass under it has died. I trimmed back some low branches two years ago to give it some light, but it never grew back in even with me seeding. We're at the point now where I either need to drop the tree and sod, or take up the brick border under it and do one that goes out farther and just plant shrubs in there instead of grass. Our area is hilly as well so we get runoff. Down in the yard it looks great, but all the rain doesn't soak in up top and that's where I have trouble getting it to grow.
Was literally talking to my Dad yesterday and said people don't realize that the Oak Trees are taking the lime out of the soil as a nutrient and that if you lay some yard lime out that it will spur new growth of the grass easily under Oak Trees like that.
May be worth a shot...
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:56 pm to GFunk
Thanks. I may give seeding and lime a shot this spring. Can't hurt.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:12 pm to Janky
I have bermuda and my neighbor's St Aug will choke it out if I don't stop it from coming over into my yard.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:30 pm to GFunk
Empire Zoysia is your answer.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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