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re: Snake ID please

Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:35 pm to
Common plan.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:42 pm to
100% and some are non normal patterns and color. At first site of those bands tho I see banded water snake.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23621 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:57 pm to
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It's been forever since I've seen one but I thought they were more gray which is why I confused it with a copperhead previously.

Maybe a pit viper but definitely not a copperhead.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5983 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

100% and some are non normal patterns and color. At first site of those bands tho I see banded water snake.


Yeah, I fooled around with a Moccasin on a fairway in Daytona Beach a few weeks ago and it's color and banding was completely different than the ones we see around here. He lived in a creek in a pine forest.

I used to kill moccasin's in NC that looked totally different than either of those too.

I'm normally looking for the way their bodies lay on the ground when their pissed, how their tails look, etc.

I'm not touching the one in the OP.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3716 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

I'm not touching the one in the OP.
me either. Water snakes can be mean suckers. It’s neck and head are about the same width, and the tail is pretty long... banded water snake. But I’m still not touching it. To be honest, as long as it’s not in my yard near my kids, I just let all of them be.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8068 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 7:52 pm to
As someone who handles cottonmouths on a regular basis (caught two last week), I’m going to have to agree with Alx on this one because of the head. Though I have to admit that this particular snake’s pattern is one of nature’s best mimics of a cottonmouth. If I saw this snake in the wild without a view of the head, I’d certainly give pause before grabbing it. But from what I can see in the photos, that’s not a cottonmouth head. Banded water snake.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by roobedoo
hall summit
Member since Jun 2008
1273 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:19 pm to
Yes, rat snakes can flatten their heads and even rattle their tails to simulate venomous snakes.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30318 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 7:20 am to
4 pages in and not a single “congratulations on the rats”
Sad how this board is falling off.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118117 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 7:40 am to
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tail length


Yep. That did it for me in about 2 seconds of looking at the first pic.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 8:20 am to
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4 pages in and not a single “congratulations on the rats”


Well, in this case it would be more of "congrats on the frogs."
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