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Shou sugi ban (torched/charred wood preservation technique) on a gun stock?

Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:45 am
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:45 am
So I used shou sugi ban (although I guess technically I didn't since it wasn't cedar) on a key rack/mail organizer I built over the weekend just using white wood from Lowe's:


On Sunday while duck hunting I got to thinking about using it on the stock for my 870. It's an older 870 with the solid walnut stock but the stock is beat to hell and could use some TLC. I was going to just strip it, sand it and stain/seal it but thought that maybe the charred wood look would be cool. Anyone have any experience with this or thoughts on it? The charring is superficial only and shouldn't effect the structural integrity of the wood if done correctly.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:48 am to
Would you have to seal over it, if so, would it negatively affect the "look"?

Love it on the rack, though..
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:49 am to
I'd say give it a shot. It's an 870 stock, worst case scenario you screw it up and you can buy one of the hundred types of aftermarket stocks
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Would you have to seal over it, if so, would it negatively affect the "look"?

Love it on the rack, though..


A clear seal on the wood shouldn't effect the look. I used a spray on sealer on the rack and it darkened it a hair but otherwise didn't change it.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:58 am to
Cool look, I just wouldn't want it to have the "shiny" look, that some sealers give, , IMO.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 7:59 am
Posted by Chuckd
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:04 am to
Personally, I love the look of walnut too much to ever alter its appearance with stains, paints, etc. I would just lightly sand it and real seal it.
Posted by BiggerBear
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:26 am to
Flamed wood? Why the Japanese name?
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:44 am to
quote:

I just wouldn't want it to have the "shiny" look

Agreed. I would want a flat or matte finish on it.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:28 am to
Weird that you posted this, I've been planning on doing this to my A5 after watching a guy do this in a cabin building video
Posted by Bleeding purple
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:46 pm to
Looks best on softer wider grained woods. Harder tightly grained woods dont get the same varigation in color.
Posted by WPsportsman
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:49 pm to
Duck hunting last Sunday? Outlaw!
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Personally, I love the look of walnut too much to ever alter its appearance with stains, paints, etc. I would just lightly sand it and real seal it.


This.

If the stock has dents in it, strip it, place a piece of paper over the dent spots, take a iron that steams. Steam the spot till the wood swells back up normal. Let it dry and then seal.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Looks best on softer wider grained woods. Harder tightly grained woods dont get the same varigation in color.




That's what I was worried about. Hmm.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:16 pm to
Wouldn't you need to strip the original glossy finish with something like citristrip, sand, then torch?

quote:

That's what I was worried about.


I think the gator looking finish on the far left would be sweet

Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't you need to strip the original glossy finish with something like citristrip, sand, then torch?



I would need to strip the original finish and sand, yeah. It's a matte finish. Well, what's left of it anyway. The finish is pretty poor at this point.

quote:

I think the gator looking finish on the far left would be sweet

True. That would look neat.

Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:18 pm to
Is the 870 a wingmaster or express? If the later, the stock is not walnut.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:43 pm to
Fish, any idea on the wood used in a 1980 A5 Jap Mag? I've searched online but haven't found anything
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 12:09 am to
quote:

870 a wingmaster or express?

It's an older express. I was under the impression it was solid wood and walnut but am probably wrong:





This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 12:25 am
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:30 am to
Really no idea there.

I'm about 100% sure the 870 is not walnut. The stock is a hardwood for sure, just don't know what kind.

Here you go.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 6:36 am
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Really no idea there.

I'm about 100% sure the 870 is not walnut. The stock is a hardwood for sure, just don't know what kind.

Here you go.

LINK



Thanks for the info. So, knowing it's not walnut but still a hardwood, does that change your opinion on the charred wood idea? I would never consider doing this to a wingmaster or a nice glossy walnut stock, but since the stock is already in need of love and I don't feel like I'm altering some heirloom piece, do I have anything to lose here?
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