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re: Shopping Bay Boats - What should i list my current boat for? (UPDATE)

Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:24 pm to
+1 for frontier
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:34 pm to
So many options now it's unreal

depends how rough of water you run also
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:00 pm to
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+1 for frontier

This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80786 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:04 pm to
I suggest Key West
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13387 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 4:10 pm to
Damn, had you posted a few weeks earlier I could have put you in touch with my dad for a killer deal on his 2010 Blue Wave Purebay 2200 with a Yamaha 250. Think he let it go for around or under $26k.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6412 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:12 pm to
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I drank too much watching the game last night and didn't realize you were the op. I found a sweet nautic star and a fine pathfinder the other day for great prices. I'll see if I cant find them again.


Haha, yeah i saw your post. I figured you didn't realize who the OP was. My phone went for a swim, send me the links one the boats you saw. I'll get a new phone this week.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6412 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:14 pm to
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Frontier


What will those boats do with a 175 on them? I see a ton rigged with something less than a 200. I just worry about cruising speed. I would want to be able to coast at 35-40 without much effort. I worry that a 175 wouldn't be enough.
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:27 pm to
The zuke 175 will push it just as fast as my yam 200. It's the gears/torque that let it swing a bigger prop.

A 150 yam will max out at roughly 45mph on the 2104 hull

My 200 i4 maxes out at 53 mph with 3 people loaded down. To do 45mph I turn 5000rpms. 40 mph I do 4500 rpms. All my trips I average 4mpg according to my trip gauge and when I fill up on the way home.

Whodats sho 200 will run at least 5mph faster than me
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted by fishbaja2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
199 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 5:35 pm to
I have a neighbor selling a high end equipped 22' champion Light use look great. 250 Yamaha 4 stoke. New remote troll motor and power pole. Baton Rouge area. I know you said your shopping but it could be had low 20's
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:03 pm to
To answer you on th 175 it will be fine. THose hulls perform well with a 150 but having a max hp of 200 is helpful.

My sho with 3 people, full tank, two ice chest and fishing gear with run 58 mph and cruise at 40 at 4K Rpms and sip gas.

I would buy one with a 175 zuke in a heartbeat. There is a red one equipped well for 30k with low hours dude was trying to move it on sportsman
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:37 pm to
the frontier is a great boat, only negative comments I've seen refer to deck drain.

and every time you see a blackjack you'll wish you had bought that
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 6:39 pm
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:40 pm to
Have you looked at Epic? They are the old vip molds tweaked as well as has a full resin infused hull. They did a great job in my opinion on the Design. They are a wake board boat company but decided to enter the Bay boat market when they acquired VIP. They took to customer opinions on design and designed their boats with these suggestions in mind. The 23 SC is awesome. The 22 seems so much smaller. I have a 23 SC and with a Yamaha 150 on it and love it. I bought it new last spring. When I looked at it, it had a Yamaha 200 on it and the dealer was asking 38. I saw one at Blue dot Marine in New Orleans last week for mid 30s I believe when I was passing through. I think it was a 200 motor but its last years model. I only saw it from the road.

The boats have tons of storage and a huge front insulated fish box. I added a Custom T top from coastline marine in Houston and I can top out about 43-44 Mph with 3-4 people on it. Very dry ride and handles waves well. It also has 2 live wells with pumps and aerators standard. Underwater fish lights come standard on most as well. plenty of lockable rod storage (2 boxes), anchor storage, jump seat storage, leaning post storage, and 2 rear storage boxes with a middles smaller compartment that has a shelf built in for Trawling motor batteries and On board charger.

I use one of the rear boxes for the main crank battery and my back up with the switch installed inside as well. My 2 trawling motor batteries are mounted in the center bay with a 4 bank charger. The other cool feature is that there is a fabricated trawling motor base in the nose for mounting as well as has a plate with an outlet for the motor as well as trim controls on the front of the boat.

Check out the links below as there are endless options but for what I do, I love it and couldn't be happier

Epic 22SC details and walk through


Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:45 pm to
Stay away from epic...there is a reason only a few dealers in la sell them. Cajun dropped them due to the issues with my buddies boat.

Supposively they were being cheap in the transom...had a void instead of solid fiberglass. My buddies splashwell on the transom cracked in two spots and had to be sent back. That experience was a nightmare and their customer service is garbage. After this Cajun dropped them. My buddy kept the boat but they didn't do a good job and Cajun had to repair it more and fix it right.

Now they said they fixed the issue but who knows. As far as ride and layout they are amazing boats I love my buddies but the quality is shite and that's why they are so cheap. Just my two cents. I hope you have a new one with a solid transom if not good luck

Go do a search on the hull truth and other sites about them.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:56 pm to
lol. well that promising. I did hear that the dealer i bought mine from stopped carrying them for the same reason. I know that they have just recently had a full change of leadership at the factory as mine had to go back in Jan for some warranty work and they took it back there as I was so close and it was a shorter turn around time than the dealer. they actually fixed some issues i caused and not warranty issues. but yes, if there are problems like that, I wouldn't recommend it but knock on wood, i have not had any of these. I also did hear that some of the cracking issues that came up were from people towing with the jack plate all the way up but not sure how true that is. That came from the dealer. they claim that they stopped carrying them due to epic not backing them in a law suit for the same issue but not for the issue, but who knows.

Not sure of price and quality but I have been seeing a lot of Sea hunt CS in Galveston and Kemah. They are sharp looking boats
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:11 pm to
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frontier is a great boat, only negative comments I've seen refer to deck drain. 

On the old hulls yes. They fixed that at least 5 years ago. Mine has zero issues and stayes dry
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1408 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:22 pm to
Probably hard to go wrong with most of the brands mentioned here so far, though can't say the same for Epic.

Have had two Nautic Stars and now in a sportsman, good boats for the money.

I'd hunt around in the used market bc 30K just isn't going to happen for 22-24 new. And definitely don't jump on an underpowered package that has a nicer price point.
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:29 pm to
Damn well it must be more widespread then I thought.

As for towing with jackplate up, lol I cringe when I see it. Your suppose to always tow with it in the down position but hey that's just what my owners maunal says lol
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:47 pm to
It would seem that towing with it down would be the only way to do it without causing damage. Thats a lot of weight and Leverage pulling down on the back of your boat.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1835 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:21 pm to
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The zuke 175 will push it just as fast as my yam 200. It's the gears/torque that let it swing a bigger prop.


Not trying to highjack but can someone explain this? I always thought go fast boats used little props for top end. Wouldn't it just plane at a lower rpm with the larger prop?
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4066 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:11 am to
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now in a sportsman, good boats for the money

how are they quality wise? I see in gulf shores they have some brand new 20 foot ones for 20k, a blue wave that same size is 36-38k. only thing is that its only rated for a 115
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