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re: Serious question for the AR, AK, SKS folks
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:54 pm to bryso
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:54 pm to bryso
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bryso
i absolutely believe it makes a MAJOR difference in military government action on its own people.
and if these guns were so useless, then why do we even have infantry or troops that fight on the ground at all? lol.
the government is forced to think TWICE about making a move on its own people if shite got supremely bad and a revolution were to take place over whatever, since we have a well armed populace.
if we were NOT an armed populace, we'd never be capable of any type of fight or defense.
there aren't enough tanks or jets to wipe out the whole population without a fight. especially since they'd lose TONS of their troops to revolting well formed militia made up of ex-military and civilians.
no, i definitely think owning weapons is all about the 2nd amendment's intent. but i feel ya.
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:55 pm to m2pro
btw, 5 minutes until doomsday.
mayans were on central time.
mayans were on central time.
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:57 pm to m2pro
We have a voluntary army, they would tell the Gov to frick off before shooting there family.
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:59 pm to m2pro
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m2pro
my thoughts as well.
Posted on 12/20/12 at 11:59 pm to GREENHEAD22
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We have a voluntary army, they would tell the Gov to frick off before shooting there family.
there'd definitely be a lot of middle fingering lol.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:04 am to m2pro
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i absolutely believe it makes a MAJOR difference in military government action on its own people.
if you thing that civilian ownership of weapons would put any fight against the govt you are very mistaken. and it has absolutely 0 deterrence on military action against its people. The govt at this point in time is made up of rather sane, stable people. yes they are overbearing, but they would not roll tanks into times square.
quote:
and if these guns were so useless, then why do we even have infantry or troops that fight on the ground at all? lol.
that wasn't my argument. yes boots on the ground is needed if you decide to go to war.. but a civilian army made up of a few dudes with ar's and 870s will do nothing against a govt that wants to take use its military power to suppress the people.
quote:No they never think about it in the first place because at this point they are sane and stable... put in someone like chavez then i might get concerned... and obama is farr from chavez.
the government is forced to think TWICE about making a move on its own people if shite got supremely bad and a revolution were to take place over whatever, since we have a well armed populace.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:06 am to bryso
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if you thing that civilian ownership of weapons would put any fight against the govt you are very mistaken
Iraq and Afghanistan say hi
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:09 am to bryso
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but a civilian army made up of a few dudes with ar's and 870s will do nothing
a few? i do wonder... how many ar's alone have been sold since they got unbanned. now imagine how many TOTAL guns have been sold and are floating around in our populace.
it's gonna take a HELL of a lot of jets. besides that, as other guy said. it would be very unlikely that our own military could actually turn against its own citizens anyway. the most probable situation would be foreign attack or world war 3 type scenarios anyway.
happy doomsday. i gotta roll to sleep now. damnable retail during xmas times. good talks.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:10 am to GREENHEAD22
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We have a voluntary army, they would tell the Gov to frick off before shooting there family.
if it gets to the point of the govt using the military against its people... i would assume it means it has thats armys full attention and can get it to do whatever it wants.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:12 am to I Love Bama
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Iraq and Afghanistan say hi
Isn't that Saddam guy dead? and Afghanistan we dont know who the hell we are shooting at... so its kinda tough..
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:15 am to bryso
FBI estimates that Americans have about 200 million guns owned by the private sector. That's like a fajillion guns per every able man/woman willing to fight.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:15 am to m2pro
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a few? i do wonder... how many ar's alone have been sold since they got unbanned. now imagine how many TOTAL guns have been sold and are floating around in our populace.
drop this on any major city... and its over... it broke the back of foe during WWII that was much stronger that whatever the civilians of the US could put together.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:16 am to bryso
Which wont happen IMHO. If I know the terrain and my enemy doesn't I could give a shite less what weapons he has. Then they came out with the infrared drones and shite. Now I am all
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It will never happen anyway though. If it did though I would play all nice, infiltrate into the top levels then pull a major improvement of a john wilks booth.
It will never happen anyway though. If it did though I would play all nice, infiltrate into the top levels then pull a major improvement of a john wilks booth.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:17 am to bryso
yeah, that's a bad argument. i'd love to chat and say why, but i really do have to sleep. laterz. had fun.
in short, you nuke all of your people like that then you lose all your power. can't make money if you vaporize that many people. work force dies instantly. etc etc etc... k g'night.
in short, you nuke all of your people like that then you lose all your power. can't make money if you vaporize that many people. work force dies instantly. etc etc etc... k g'night.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 12:19 am
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:18 am to I Love Bama
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Never go full retard
how did i go full retard? if anything i think its full retard to think we could stand up to a govt willing to use bombs, planes, and tanks against us.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:20 am to bryso
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how did i go full retard? if anything i think its full retard to think we could stand up to a govt willing to use bombs, planes, and tanks against us.
DAMN YOU FOR PULLING ME IN...
do you think Americans were excited about fighting King George and his LEGION of redcoats and cannons and artillery and money and resources?
we beat their asses with sling shots comparatively.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:20 am to bryso
You're not thinking clear. You think our own friends and family would take those orders to fire upon us? I know many people in the military and they are fed up with the gvt. The civilians would have access to anything and everything
Posted on 12/21/12 at 12:20 am to m2pro
uh... now i can't post. 8m left on battery.
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