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re: Scope Recommendations

Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:38 am to
Posted by BTRLSU5
Missouri
Member since Jan 2014
154 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:38 am to
1. That's all I have at the moment that's suitable for deer.
2. It'd mean a lot to get my first deer with this rifle.
3. I already stated that I plan on getting a different rifle to use as my primary deer rifle
Posted by BTRLSU5
Missouri
Member since Jan 2014
154 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:39 am to
That's what I'm getting, the DNZ mount
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:43 am to
For ammo, I'll suggest what you shouldn't use.

1) hornady leverevolution
2) buffalo bore (meant for bears)
3) hollow points

Any basic old 150 or 170 grain soft point will work fine.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Don't know if they make a fixed 3 power with a 9mm objective.


Sig Sauer actually just came out with one.

Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:46 pm to
I love how people on this board act like a .30-30 is basically primitive hunting. They'll work out to ~175 yards just fine, further than a lot of people should even attempt to shoot. As far as ammo, keep it simple. Cheap soft points in 150 or 170 grains are fine.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:48 pm to
Yea, it's hardly a handicap for most people. The rifles are usually very accurate too. Mine will shoot 1" groups with pretty much anything you feed it.

It was once told that the .30-30 is so powerful, it is capable of knocking down 3 lunchroom ladies.
Posted by BTRLSU5
Missouri
Member since Jan 2014
154 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:46 pm to
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It was once told that the .30-30 is so powerful, it is capable of knocking down 3 lunchroom ladies.




I'm not sure if those are native up here. Do you know of any reputable guides for a hunt like that?
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15109 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

1. That's all I have at the moment that's suitable for deer. 2. It'd mean a lot to get my first deer with this rifle. 3. I already stated that I plan on getting a different rifle to use as my primary deer rifle


Don't apologize for using a 30-30. There's nothing wrong with hunting with one, unless you're hunting grizzly bear.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:02 pm to
Only a fool would apologize for using one. I can see why it's not ideal for many people, but I would wager over 100 bucks have fallen to the .30-30 at my camp alone.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:04 pm to
You win at internet for the day.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

They'll work out to ~175 yards just fine, further than a lot of people should even attempt to shoot.



This is why I was recommending fixed 3X, Why anyone not suffering from macular degeneration would need 7X at 150 yards or under is beyond me.

This tends to make folks think they can shoot far farther than the gun is capable of.

I love both my .35 as well as my .30-.30 but they both have their niche, quick brush busting snap shots is their forte, not fiddling with scopes. JMHO

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
You don't NEED more than 3x for shooting typically, but it helps a whole lot to have more when doing things like deciding if you should shoot or not.

A 2-7 is far more utilitarian than a fixed power 3x or 4x. You can aim a rifle with a 2 power scope at your big toe and see it clearly, and 7x gives you enough to shoot at 150
Posted by BTRLSU5
Missouri
Member since Jan 2014
154 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:08 pm to
I'll never understand why people think adjusting magnification is such an ordeal.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:32 pm to
I am not a fan of scopes on them at all, but that is not what the OP asked about, to each his own though.


I am curious at what range you are getting these sub 1" groups at though.



Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7604 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:52 pm to
Lots of good suggestions so far.

I agree that a 2-7X has advantages not available w/ a fixed power. If the variable is to expensive, a nice 3X or 4X fixed power scope can still kill deer as far away as you can kill them w/ a 30/30. I also agree there's no need for the hunter using a 30/30 to apologize. Actually, to me it indicates the hunter understands the 30/30 has limitations and is willing to operate w/in those limitations. As far as loads, use whichever traditional 150-170 gr load shoots best in your gun that you can regularly find available locally.

OTOH, I'm NOT a fan of the one piece scope rings/base, like DNZ.I tried using such an outfit one time on a T/C Contender but the placement of the rings was not compatible w/ the scope turrets and bells. When available, I prefer a one piece, multi-slot Weaver Base w/ Burris Signature (the ones w/ the plastic inserts) Weaver-type rings. A properly mounted 2 scope rings w/ separate base will be just as accurate, sturdy and more flexible than the monopiece rings/base. I quit using anything other than the Burris Signature rings about 20 yrs ago and don't regret it one bit.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15109 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:16 am to
quote:

I would wager over 100 bucks have fallen to the .30-30 at my camp alone.


With the records kept, we could come up with a pretty close number.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3118 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:53 am to
I hunted for years with a 336. It has a 4x40mm fixed power scope on it with see through mounts. All I ever shot out of it was Remington Corelocks. It always killed deer.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:36 am to
100 yards. It's a shame but my 336 is a less picky rifle than my tikka T3.

ETA: do you use a peep sight? I've been tempted to pull the scope off my rifle and put a peep sight. Scopes really suck in the rain.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:38 am
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