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Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Like others have said, its great to know someone that has experience in this.



Kinda bitter sweet, but my whole motivation for wanting to do this is an m77 ruger handed down to me by my grandad, who would have been the person I'd ask about this stuff. I dropped the stock to do some tinkering with it and found that he had already pillar bedded and glassed the action and floated the barrel. Seems only fitting I work up a handload for it, cause I know he probably did.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:54 pm to
Do you have all his notes on it, if he reloaded for it?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 12:03 am to
Not at all, he passed when I was 12 and all I knew of the rifle was that I liked how it looked, stainless and laminate. In hindsight it was his long range mule deer rig, but any loading he did for it got lost in the shuffle. That's why I'm interested in getting it dialed in, I want to go through the process he did.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 12:22 am to
Well I'll say this, reloading is a cool arse rabbit hole to go down. I bought equip last fall and just now got around to setting up space. Got 100 cases of 30 Nos & 243 prepped. You can buy the best equip, but you cant buy the time to play with it!
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 9:04 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:07 am to
There is a lot of the info online - right out of the books. I have a 3 ring binder for each bullet I have messed with and just got the recipes off the web.

Screw paying $40+ for a Book that 90% of I won’t use.
Posted by Bagger Joe
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
853 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:56 pm to
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Didn't realize we had so many reloaders here.



Yes. There are a few of us on here and we do enjoy talking about it. I'm a handgun loader myself so I can't add a lot of info about rifle. Loading a dozen or so rifle rounds just seems like torture to me. I loaded 500 9mm rounds this past weekend. I had a good friend (he passed last year from cancer) who loaded and shot rifle and pistol competitively and he enjoyed working up rifle loads. The only advice I might offer is use "book loads" as starting points to customize the best load for your gun. Tweeking a powder charge by +/- 0.1 or 0.2 grains may make a difference in the accuracy of your gun. As others have said, I would recommend investing in a chronograph, especially if your working near the limits.

Keep us updated on your progress.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7180 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:13 pm to
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Ken Waters Pet Loads
Good stuff!

I have all volumes of his "Pet Loads" andI still enjoy reading his articles. Although the actual load data is dated, I find the history and his process of working up a load both interesting and useful.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17881 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:35 pm to
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Keep us updated on your progress.



Things aren't going so good. I promptly talked myself into getting a new gun to learn load work-up on, so before the first manual shows up tomorrow I will likely be ordering a savage 12 fv in 22-250.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26979 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

I will likely be ordering a savage 12 fv in 22-250.



So, it begins...
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 12:57 pm to
Ordered it last night online and just got text that it's in, so now I'm stock/optic shopping. Lyman's showed up today but my academy has a rock chucker supreme on the shelf and I have a good idea what else I want to start with, so my first round should come out to just about a mortgage payment.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26979 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

so now I'm stock/optic shopping.


What are you thinking?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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so now I'm stock/optic shopping


I really like spending other people's money!
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17881 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:45 pm to
I know that I want a thumbhole varmint stock so I'm looking at either Boyd's or this one that comes pillar bedded. I consider a new stock a sunk cost of buying a cheap savage, but I won't be breaking the bank with optics since I own 8 other rifles and this was a completely unnecessary purchase. Looking at either a vortex crossfire ii or diamondback in 6-24.
Posted by Bagger Joe
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
853 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:14 pm to
Well then! Congrats on the new purchase!

Contrary to what people might think, reloaders don't reload to save money!

Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14605 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

reloaders don't reload to save money!


for pistol rounds it does come out cheaper per round for me, but I do shoot more so..

I have never added up what it cost per round for my rifles but I bet I'm not saving money per round.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1988 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Contrary to what people might think, reloaders don't reload to save money!

You must be doing it wrong.
Posted by Bagger Joe
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
853 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:03 pm to
If you don't figure in the cost of your reloader and everything else that goes along with it, then you are doing it wrong. You can't just add up the cost of the components to load a round and subtract that from off the shelf stuff and say you are saving money because you have an initial investment that has to figure into the equation. The more rounds you load over time the price will go down, but it will take a long time to "save money".
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14605 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:06 pm to
I had figured that after I loaded 1000 rounds I paid for my press and dies. I have a Lee Progressive with Lee dies. About $200 total if I remember correctly.

ETA: when I was calculating my cost per round that included buying brass and using brass at least five times in my 9mm. I haven't bought 9mm brass in 8 years minimum.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26979 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:39 pm to
I'm way (really way) in the hole right now.

this past year I bought a K&M arbor press, LE Wilson dies in 6.5cm, K&M neck turning tool, new primer seating tool, annealer, and an autotrickler V3.

It'll be a while before I dig out of that one...
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1988 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:39 pm to
Been reloading for 35 years and I've saved quite a bit from the start. I also started with a Lee Classic (like I suggested in a prior post in this thread) for a 30-30. I took the money saved from there and progressed. Was only in the negative for the first 100 rounds or so, not including equity. Like I said; if you're not saving, you're doing it wrong.
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