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re: Reloading Advice and Recommendations

Posted on 1/3/12 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/3/12 at 4:44 pm to
I am going to discuss the ins and outs with a gunsmith I know that does this tonight. I appreciate the information everyone has provided. I have a bunch of information to process over the coming days/weeks. The OB always delivers.



ETA: Thanks everyone. I am going to get the manuals first and start from there. At times I like to put something in my hands before I purchase it. The Press sounds like one of those items.
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 4:47 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22828 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 5:22 pm to
Trust me call Dillon they will treat you right
Posted by gmshooter
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
423 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 5:49 pm to
I have a Dillion 650 and Square Deal B. I load 9mm,.38,.40,38super,45acp progressive is they way to go with the pistol calibers. You can looking the dillion 550 (non progressive) for your rifle rounds if you are loading alot of them. I am currently using a lee single stage for my rifle round because I am just loading some hunting rounds (7mm-08,.223,444 Marlin). Dillion has a no bull?hit warrenty on all of there products.Do your research before you buy you are going to get 50 different answers on which one. I have been happy with my blue presses..
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22828 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 8:36 pm to
Great thread Fellas if you are like me you read reloading stuff like a maniac

Love it

I have never had an issue with Dillon customer service they have sent me several things for free all be it small stuff but still
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22828 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 8:42 pm to
The only rifles I load for are a 357 and 44 Marlin but I have heard the Redding dies are top notch for rifles
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 8:45 pm
Posted by CCTiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Jan 2005
101 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 9:06 pm to
Since we are just offering opinions, and like others here I have been reloading for many years. I think it is absolutely a mistake to start with a multi-stage machine to start reloading. You don't even understand what is supposed to happen at each stage, much less how to tune it to get good results.

If you think you want to spend less and still be able to crank out higher volume at some point later, still be able to watch the process one case at a time, a Turret press would be my choice. Even the non-auto indexing presses get ahead of you. I have always heard great customer service stories about Dillon, that was not my personal experience, but even if they give the thing to you, you should start and gain a thorough understanding on a single stage - you will need it for other things down the road in my opinion. Most all of these companies in my experience are most helpful and will replace little stuff free to help you out, although that is changing.

Another consideration for loading precision ammo, as the expressed intent is, powder measure, and you are not going to get consistent, bench-rest type accuracy or powder throws with a Dillon bushing type measure, you need a different type measure to best achieve that end. But, there are many that know a good bit about this stuff, reading the manuals first is frankly a suggestion I overlooked, great source, see the process and get an overview of the steps. Good Luck.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10774 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 9:49 pm to
I bought the Lyman Turrent press last year and love it. Sure I have ran in to problems that were my own fault but the press has worked great and Lyman product are top notch.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
9008 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:36 pm to
I am going with the Single Stage Press. I am more concerned with accurate rifle ammo and safety starting out. If I feel the need to equip a small militia, I may upgrade. For now though I am likely purchasing the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit. I found it for about $277.

RCBS Rock Chucker. Kit.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22828 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 1:49 am to
First of all if you do not know what each step does then you have no business hand loading
Two if you don't know what a powder tumbler is better figure it out.
Three reloading is like classic cars someone is always more righter than you.

Finally to not have a good experience with Dillon customer service well if you act like a know it all I'm sure they respond as such. The only problem I have with accuracy is my trigger control I've never understood shooters blaming their ammo for shitty grouping
Good luck with your new press
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I am going with the Single Stage Press. I am more concerned with accurate rifle ammo and safety starting out. If I feel the need to equip a small militia, I may upgrade. For now though I am likely purchasing the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit. I found it for about $277.



IMHO, you made the right decision. You're just not going to get the consistency from a progressive that you will from a single stage press. You'll find yourself upgrading certain things as you go along, but that kit will get you off and running for not a lot of money.

What dies are you going to use? I like the Redding three piece dies, but have used RCBS as well. You need to decide whether you are going to full length resize your brass or just neck size your brass.

I haven't been doing this long as my uncle has always handloaded all my rounds, so I understand what you're doing. Like I said, I bought the Forster press and put together my own "kit". That shite got expensive.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7592 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 11:44 am to
Nimble,
Sounds like you made a good decision. The Rock Chucker will last you a lifetime. Even if you someday get a progressive, you'll probably still find yourself using the Rock Chucker for specific applications.

Neck sizing vs full length resizing is an age old debate, sort of like 270 Win vs 30-06. If you polled a number of handloaders you'd prob find 1/3 that FL resize all the time, 1/3 that neck size all the time and 1/3 that do either, depending on the situation. For years, it's been said that neck sizing produces slightly more accurate ammo. OTOH, neck sizing only often times can eventually produce reliability issues w/ ammo. I only have one gun that I exclusively neck size, but it is specially chambered so that neck sizing only was rec'd by the 'smith. I've been satisfied w/ the accuracy and reliability of my full length sized ammo.
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