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re: Regulation Spin Off

Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:21 pm to
1. It should change annually per Biologist determined herd necessities

2. 1-3 is probably plenty depending on the year

3. You can't regulate age, so it should have minimum pts or antler spread, NO SPIKES

4. We'll never have big hammer bucks and numerous buck sightings unless we tighten the regs like other states do.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49946 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

3. You can't regulate age, so it should have minimum pts or antler spread, NO SPIKES

Counter point, 1-2 year old 8 points are the easiest deer in the woods to kill

Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49946 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Yes. Why not? How does my management practices in NELA affect “your” deer in SELA, or wherever you may be? You think I’m going to go mow down every deer I see just because the I’m allowed?

There’s already one example of a club that is more restrictive than current LDWF reg.

Do we like freedom or not?
Fun fact... your private land =/= your private deer

Those animals are for the public, not for you. They just happen to be on your land, at times
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85842 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Yes. Why not?


because the wildlife on your property is not your property
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6947 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

How many bucks per year should a resident be allowed to kill in Louisiana each season?


However many the herd can sustain.
Posted by Clovis Pilgreen
Member since Jan 2021
204 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:48 pm to
Any place worth a shite in the state of Louisiana already has restrictions way more stringent than these. Your not growing “destination” bucks in the Central and NW LA pine thickets. 130”+ deer would still be the exception, not the rule. And your not growing “destination” bucks in whitetail wasteland that is S LA, even if you disarm every coonass in the state.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4556 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Clovis Pilgreen



I agree with this for about 75% of the state.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2598 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

There was a time not to long ago where deer were on the way out the door. There's a reason we tasked state/federal government with management.


Generally speaking, LA whitetail population is not that good compared to other states. Whitetail numbers could benefit from a shorter season or tighter restrictions. Don't know why our seasons are so liberal because the numbers don't appear to support it. Must be habitat related. Not a biologist and didn't stay at a holiday inn last night.

Mississippi - 35 per square mile
Alabama - 33 psm
Kentucky - 20 psm
Wisconsin - 18 psm
Ohio - 18 psm
Missouri - 17 psm
Texas - 15 psm
Illinois - 14 psm
Louisiana - 10 psm
Minnesota - 9 psm
Oklahoma - 7 psm
Kansas - 7 psm
Iowa - 6 psm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49946 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:14 pm to
Would be interested to see those numbers revisited with "Deer per square mile of supporting habitat"
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40223 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Would be interested to see those numbers revisited with "Deer per square mile of supporting habitat"




Word. The best deer hunting in the state in the MS river delta. But I bet the deer per square mile numbers are pretty low considering the vast majority of the acreage is in wide arse open fields.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49946 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:27 pm to
Also take into account the more than 400,000 acres of sugar cane fields and all of the salt marsh along the coast.

Almost every other state mentioned has suitable habitat in all agricultural lands
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16442 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:28 pm to

The same states with human population by square mile

Mississippi - 63.23 per square mile
Alabama - 97.18 psm
Kentucky - 113.37 psm
Wisconsin - 6 psm
Ohio - 286.19 psm
Missouri - 89.52 psm
Texas - 39.54 psm
Illinois - 226.73 psm
Louisiana - 107.53 psm
Minnesota - 71.07 psm
Oklahoma - 58.03 psm
Kansas - 35.64 psm
Iowa - 56.64 psm

Wasn't trying to make any kind of point with this, was just curious.

Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2598 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:28 pm to
I agree. I guess that is why densities seem higher in Midwest since there is so much ag. Deer are congregated more.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Counter point, 1-2 year old 8 points are the easiest deer in the woods to kill

I mean I wish we could regulate on the hoof age judgement, but good luck
Posted by ArmyVet
Member since Mar 2020
98 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

As many as one may need; ESPECIALLY on privately owned land.


You must be in Jeff Davis Parish.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26911 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

How does my deer management in NE Louisiana effect your deer management….


I live and own ground in northeast, Louisiana. A second thing we have in common is that neither of us own the wildlife that live there.

I never thought you or others would want to mow down every deer, but you have to admit there are many who would if allowed.

I’m all for freedom but I’m old enough to know that the vast majority of Louisiana deer were restocked based on the fact that they were killed out in most areas.
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17479 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

I live and own ground in northeast, Louisiana. A second thing we have in common is that neither of us own the wildlife that live there.

I never thought you or others would want to mow down every deer, but you have to admit there are many who would if allowed.

I’m all for freedom but I’m old enough to know that the vast majority of Louisiana deer were restocked based on the fact that they were killed out in most areas.
IDK man, I used to agree on the deer are a public resource deal, but now I tend to look at private land deer management more like a private bass pond that, for arguments sake, LDWF claims they stocked in the 1950’s (but did not stock in actuality). I manage and fish the entire pond and my neighbors are allowed to fish from their respectively-owned portions of the bank.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7378 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 6:00 pm to
It doesn’t matter if you agree, White Bear. The deer belong to the state.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7378 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 6:02 pm to
For Louisiana to truly be the Sportsman’s Paradise, it needs more sportsmen. Far too many game hogs, currently.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 6:08 pm to
I've always wanted an earned tag system. Every hunter starts off with 1 buck tag and 2 doe tags. When your doe tags are verified, you may obtain another buck tag and 4 doe tags. You can have your last buck tag when you verify the 4 doe tag harvests.

Ratio would be protected, thus healthy population.
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