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Question about building a great fishing pond

Posted on 1/2/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted by will1883
Vicksburg, MS
Member since Jan 2010
364 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 5:37 pm
I have a piece of property that I’m thinking about building a pond on. It would be approximately 8-9 acres. I know how to build the pond, but I’m not sure if the topography would lend itself to being a great fishing lake. Great meaning you can go catch plentiful nice bass and bream if managed correctly. I would be connecting two very steep ridges to impound the water. Steep as in you can’t walk up them. I don’t want to waste money if the banks would be too steep for to provide spawning areas. I’m not familiar with thermocline, oxygen levels, etc. I guess I’m asking if there is a company or consultant out there that could come look at the property and give input. Thanks in advance.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9140 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 5:56 pm to
It sounds really awesome just like it is. Those steep drops are excellent natural holding places. They will spawn where they can and be fine. I'm jealous
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:51 pm to
LSU Agriculture Center will probably provide some information if you asked them.
Posted by TrueTiger07
Madison, MS
Member since May 2007
2341 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:13 pm to
I just built an 11 acre pond in Madison County. We had Mississippi State lay it out (with our engineer) and we got very detailed, ie ditches, elevation changes, depth (18’-20 max), dirt mounds, pea gravel, feed stations, etc. There was nothing we didn’t lay out.

We also brought in 35 concrete culverts for structure, along with brush piles, concrete piles, and huge tree structures.

Our goal is to grow big fish. We will stock it in the spring.

Be careful and prepared on what you’re biting off. We moved 35,000 yards of dirt and are in 75K already without it being stocked. Just FYI.

Happy to answer any questions you have.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19266 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:52 pm to
It's preferable to have a natural water source such as a creek/river that runs constantly to provide oxygen, fresh water, food (minnows, crawfish etc etc).

We built one on our land years ago, we dug out a 30' trench with different levels/flats and built a dam then let the creek fill it up.

Some guy came and stocked it with what they called "government" bream, these things are giant bluegill. Also Bass, crappie and some flat head catfish to control small fish, It's pretty good when I get to go.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:09 pm to
Just cut a flat bench or two on the slopes.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

It's preferable to have a natural water source such as a creek/river that runs constantly to provide oxygen, fresh water, food (minnows, crawfish etc etc).

Gotta be careful about that kind of stuff as far as legal/permit issues go. The Corps of Engineers can be a real bitch about that stuff, depending on the district.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Gotta be careful about that kind of stuff as far as legal/permit issues go. The Corps of Engineers can be a real bitch about that stuff, depending on the district.


People fill ponds with natural waterways all the time. The only gotcha in Louisiana is if it flows you have to have a fishing license to fish it even if it is 100% on private land.

OP if you want to read a TON, go to forum.pondboss.com
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9399 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

It's preferable to have a natural water source such as a creek/river that runs constantly to provide oxygen, fresh water, food (minnows, crawfish etc etc).



Yea that is the way to go.




If you are the freaking TVA. Your going to damn up a river? You damn up a creek or even a blue line stream you are going to be asking for trouble.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:31 pm to
Check out Pondboss.com they have a ton of forums on there and answers to about every question you can think of or should've.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4368 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:35 pm to
Only question I have is can I get some coordinates (for pond and structure).
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

If you are the freaking TVA. Your going to damn up a river? You damn up a creek or even a blue line stream you are going to be asking for trouble.


Yup. And trash fish and you're gonna spend a shite ton on a spillway. Better not flood your neighbors.

And even if you do some work yourself, get someone that knows about and has built ponds. It ain't as simple as it looks. Building a 8 acre impoundment for a neighboring hunting club. They decided they needed it after they saw mine...then doubled it. They're going all out. Good guys to do work for. Damn weather has been a bitch this year though.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:59 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

called "government" bream,

Redear. I stocked mine 75% bluegill and 25% redear. Along with bass 6 months later. Added about 250 channel cat but don't have any breeding structure. Will be 2 years in April since bass stocked. Already caught some 3 pounders and a 4. Hung a big sumbitch. Had a few mudcat so I think that big'un must've made his way with the mudcat from a nearby creek.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:15 pm to

My pond. Damn big arse deer kept getting in the way.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:18 pm to

Helped a friends dad redo his pond last year after he lost the levee a year before. He designed the dock. Think I'm gonna go with the same look on mine.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17812 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:56 pm to
Dang. Does he park his truck on that dock?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:52 am to
quote:

People fill ponds with natural waterways all the time. The only gotcha in Louisiana is if it flows you have to have a fishing license to fish it even if it is 100% on private land.

People also build houses all the time after clearing some woods--doesn't mean it was done with all of the proper permits in place.

All I'm saying is that if OP is going to dig an 8 or 9 acre pond (lake), I would be damn sure I have all of my ducks in a row before connecting it to a stream or bayou.

OP, you might also look into your local NRCS office. They might be able to provide some assistance with the questions you have.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:40 am to
He could! It’s damn sure solid and gonna be there awhile.
Posted by Vlad
North AL
Member since May 2012
2605 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:52 pm to
SouthEastern Pond Management

They have an office in MS. Great guys that will point you in right direction.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32631 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:55 pm to
There is for sure companies out there. My uncle did a few years ago and got in touch with a wildlife biologist through BASS.

His is a 3 acre pond and it’s slammed full of trophy fish.

As far as topography goes- he put in a couple of spawning flats in the middle and cut a creek system in it. He also put in a shite load of vertical structures.

He used to go to Toledo or Sam Rayburn every weekend. He just stays on his little lake now.

He’s got some brush in one corner too that holds a shite load of white perch. He also has like 4 holes that are about 10’ diameter and 20’ deep.

His thought process was a pond that could hold a frick load of baitfish and they would have somewhere to hide and spawn as well.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 12:57 pm
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