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Proper way to fix my gutter.......

Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28858 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:21 pm
Brothers of the OB, I come to you with a problem. Last week I noticed the last couple feet of my gutter sagging away from the roof, I got up on the ladder yesterday to check things out and apparently somehow it became detached. I went to Lowes to get the proper hardware to fix the issue, and basically got different answers from the folks I spoke with and neither seemed to know what they hell they were talking about.
I finally got a box of gutter screws, which were long screws with a sleeve similar to a anchor bolt. However when I got home I got confused because the illustration on the box shows the screw going through the front of the gutter, going over the trough and then going through the back wall into the house. None of my other screws do that, and they just go through the back wall into the house.

Someone I spoke with today, mentioned clips......please help!
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:24 pm to
Those screws w/ sleeves are very common and the "old" way. Much sturdier than just screwing through the rear wall.

"Clips"?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28858 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:31 pm to
I don't know had a buddy mention clips and said they work better.......we just texted back and forth so I really didn't get any specifics. I really don't want to do something just in a very short section, if it isn't done that way around the whole house. Plus that seems like it would be much more involved that just screwing in the rear wall. We purchased the house about 7yrs ago and the roof was redone prior to us buying it. Would the gutter have been changed out as well? If it's more complicated than just screwing into the back wall, I guess it wouldn't cost much to get someone to fix that small section?

Can I use the screw with sleeve and just go through the rear wall? I can't find the old screws that apparently came out, is that in any way concerning?
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46135 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:33 pm to
I don't know the best fix, but here are pics.



Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26090 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 1:40 pm to
I've used the long screws with the plastic sleeve and they worked well. The key for me was to drive them in at an angle so that the outside edge was higher than the roof line. Worked great until I replaced the gutters altogether when I put on a new roof.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

None of my other screws do that, and they just go through the back wall into the house.


That's your problem.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28858 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:04 pm to
Well at this point what should I do? Can I use the long screws and just put them in the backplate, or is there something else I can buy to match what was already done?
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10834 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:11 pm to
Pic 1 of what Wick posted is pretty much SOP of any gutter outfit in this decade. I would go to a supply house or something, those are what you need to use if you have the seamless gutters.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25326 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:17 pm to
pic 1 above but need to make sure the leading edge of the gutter is not bent open or it will not be able to properly be grasped by the clip.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Pic 1 of what Wick posted is pretty much SOP of any gutter outfit in this decade. I would go to a supply house or something, those are what you need to use if you have the seamless gutters.


You can get those type of clips at Lowes or Home Depot. I would assume they will fit the OP's gutter, but without pics or looking at them, I can't be sure.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26090 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 5:25 pm to
You can get the 7 inch gutter screws pretty much anywhere. Drive them through the lip of the gutter, through the back plate, and into the wood, all at an angle to lift the lip. I added five of these to sagging gutters across the front of my house and they were solid.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

You can get the 7 inch gutter screws pretty much anywhere. Drive them through the lip of the gutter, through the back plate, and into the wood, all at an angle to lift the lip. I added five of these to sagging gutters across the front of my house and they were solid.


Apparently he would have to drill holes inthe front of his gutter to use these as his gutters do not currently have them.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28858 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:16 pm to
Correct, and that's the problem. I'd rather just fix it like the rest of the gutter is situated. What do I need to buy just to screw in through the backplate.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10834 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:23 pm to
self tapping stingers
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:39 pm to
wick's top pic may be the easiest fix, however (sorry Tboy) make sure the front edge of the gutter is slight LOWER than the rear, otherwise you will wet rot your facia as water runs back toward your house when gutters overflow
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26090 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

wick's top pic may be the easiest fix, however (sorry Tboy) make sure the front edge of the gutter is slight LOWER than the rear, otherwise you will wet rot your facia as water runs back toward your house when gutters overflow


Maybe that's why the new roof was so expensive?
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