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re: Pretty cool pictures from Lake Ouachita of a harmless snake.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:04 pm to WhuckFistle
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:04 pm to WhuckFistle
Water snake, non-venomous. Man for being outdoorsmen you guys sure don't know much about the outdoors.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 5:15 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Water snake, non-venomous
No, it's a cotton mouth, but "venomous" has such a horrible, negative connotation. People assume it's inherently dangerous, which it's not. Let's stray away from labels please.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 6:35 pm to Frosty86
Pic is too blurry to be 100% sure, but the body type and heavily keeled scales look cottonmouthy to me.
The heavy rain has really messed with my little creek. Instead of shallow calm water, it’s now above my boots and has rapids.
Had to walk an hour the other day to find just one cottonmouth. It was one of the biggest I’ve caught here though, and it was ready to shed.
The heavy rain has really messed with my little creek. Instead of shallow calm water, it’s now above my boots and has rapids.




This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:29 pm to TigrrrDad
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Pic is too blurry to be 100% sure, but the body type and heavily keeled scales look cottonmouthy to me.
Are there some pics I am not seeing? I see three pictures in the OP and they are all clearly cottonmouth
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:21 pm to Ron Cheramie
In the first pic, it kind of looks like a round pupil, but the pic is blurry. What looks like the eye with a round pupil might actually be that little “shelf” that overhangs the eye on a cottonmouth, but the angle/shadows/blurriness make it look like an eye/pupil. Likewise, cottonmouths generally have a distinct eye stripe (wide, dark stripe right behind eye). Hard to tell if it’s there in that pic. I hate making positive IDs on blurry pics. But without overanalyzing blurry details, at a glance that certainly looks like a cottonmouth. If those pics were all I had to go on though, I’m definitely pinning it before I grab its head.
ETA: If I cover that one tiny part of the first pic that looks like an eyeball, all of the pics scream “cottonmouth”.

ETA: If I cover that one tiny part of the first pic that looks like an eyeball, all of the pics scream “cottonmouth”.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:28 pm to TigrrrDad
I agree. Other than the first picture I’d definitely say ole stump tail. But that first pic I see round pupils. Maybe I’ve have too many cold ones.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:36 pm to Frosty86
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:08 pm to Ron Cheramie
Now I do see how you could make it look like a round pupil. But it’s The way the sun is hitting that shiny scale Look behind that and you can make out the cat eye
And a watersnake would have labial bars
And a watersnake would have labial bars
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:34 pm to Ron Cheramie
Yeah, looking at all the pics it’s 100% cottonmouth. I’ve never liked the “labial bars rule” for water snakes for inexperienced people, because I’ve caught too many cottons with patterns around the mouth that someone might mistake for labial bars - such as this one… 

Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:34 pm to WhuckFistle
Giant triangular head, cotton mouth. Dead it. 

Posted on 9/5/22 at 8:36 am to Ron Cheramie
I can see clearly now.
I was wrong. Y’all were right.
I was wrong. Y’all were right.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:32 am to WhuckFistle
100% water moccasin. You can clearly see the venom glands in the head and the band across his face. Anyone that thinks it's water snake does not know their snakes.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:11 am to saintsfan1977
I can smell that fricker from here!
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