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re: Planting 75 sawtooth seedlings today and tomorrow

Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5629 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:00 pm to
They might help, but acorns are not year round food. Clover is your answer for year round food. If possible, so some controlled burns. Also, lightly disc roadsides.
We have a few sawtooths on us and right next to us. They just haven’t impressed me. Maybe you’ll get better results.
A match and a bullet are your greatest management tools. Kill some does.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5978 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:08 pm to
My dad planted a small hay field with them several years ago. The first batch planted in 2007 are close to 40 feet tall. The other side of the field was planted in 09 and they are at least 30 feet. They grow fast and drop early.
The deer frequent them in early fall.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19612 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:27 pm to
I am not disagreeing with you but do they have any native varieties that start producing quickly?
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25493 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:38 pm to
The most successful hunting properties have food year round, not just during deer season.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:33 pm to
Obviously, they are only part of the year round food solution. I have clover and vetch planted now
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
1926 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:05 pm to
I plant all kinds of stuff. You shooting deer over your pea patch? It’s about adding stuff wildlife eats no matter the season.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12718 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Clover is your answer for year round food.

Yeah, that's not even close to true in the southeast unless its in a shaded area during the summer.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5629 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:10 pm to
Clover is strong for three seasons. During the summer, there’s plenty of native browse. Clover is about as good as you’ll find. It really helps in late winter to carry your deer through.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:16 pm to
I have a TON of vetch from our bee guys. Planted in oct and hoping it pays off for turkey season.
Posted by Royalfisher
Member since May 2022
459 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:35 pm to
Can I ask where one buys bare root oak seedlings these days. Was nice when the LA Dept of Agriculture had their seedling sale.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3707 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:13 pm to
I’ve got 6 in my front yard,put out tons of acorns every year.Problem is , nothing eats them,not even squirrels.

I was talking to a guy one day that had quite a few planted on the far edge of a pasture behind his house.He said it took 20 years before the deer stated eating them.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Kill some does.


Killed 11 this year on 635 acres
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:06 pm to
Got these at a charity sale in Lake Charles
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12718 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:24 am to
quote:

Got these at a charity sale in Lake Charles

I know which sale you are talking about, and it's not really a charity. It's done as a public service, but puts alittle bit of money back into the entity for other public services/projects.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5629 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:09 am to
Interesting comments on overrated trees

LINK
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12718 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:03 am to
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Interesting comments on overrated trees

Not at all surprising, though. The same could be said for many aspects of whitetail management, like hinge cutting, edge feathering, and food plots. There's no such thing as a magic bullet when it comes to deer management, but it seems like different species and management techniques get treated as such from time to time. They get overdone.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:45 pm to
Well, my uncle planted a bunch next to us about 7 years ago and the deer hammer them in October every year. Good food source. I don’t give a shite what some dude in Ohio thinks about oak trees in the loess soils of Woodville
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5629 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:29 am to
I hear you, but that guy you’re talking about has a lucrative land consulting business and planted trees for twenty years. He helps himself and clients kill 200” bucks.
One thing Don Higgins stresses is to have sanctuary. Many Southern properties have sanctuary due to cutovers, etc. But also have constant activity during deer season putting scent in the woods.
Posted by Royalfisher
Member since May 2022
459 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 5:03 pm to
Dumb question maybe but why would new guys have a ton of vetch?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 5:15 pm to
Haha our bee guys gave us a bunch of sacks
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