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Pine trees in NE LA, SE AR

Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted by turkish
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:55 pm
On a recent drive up 65, it seems that from Ferriday to just south of Pine Bluff, every single pine tree was dead. Now this is Bottomland, so no pine plantations, but lots of big old dead snags in yards. Paying attention, I could not find a single live one. Anybody else noticed this?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:59 pm to
frick a pine tree
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:08 pm to
Haha. I hear ya. Augusta National would be pretty ugly with you in charge. That’s the type of trees I’m talking about here. But your general sentiment isn’t totally off base. I’m still curious.

Eta. For the record, I’d be curious about this regardless of the species of tree. I don’t get the downvote.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:23 pm to
Pine bark beetle. They are nearly impossible to control once one tree gets them in it
Posted by Tiger2712
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:47 pm to
I have noticed this around monetary. It’s south of ferriday. We have a camp on black river lake and all the pine trees in peoples yards are dead. I figured it had something to do with crop dusters.
Posted by bigolecatfish
God's Country
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:48 pm to
The beetle. Don’t know of a single healthy pine in Tensas parish. Either dying or dead.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 10:38 pm to
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Pine bark beetle. They are nearly impossible to control once one tree gets them in it


Not true. Delete the tree from your property at first sight and you’ll be good.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 10:39 pm to
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The beetle. Don’t know of a single healthy pine in Tensas parish. Either dying or dead.


Honestly might not be a bad thing
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 11:28 pm to
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Don’t know of a single healthy pine in Tensas parish.
it’s a shame all the old growth Tensas pine were cut out in the 1800s.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 1:40 am to
To hell with a pine tree, make sure none of those evil SOB’s can reach your house. The same for Water Oaks.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 5:06 am to
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it’s a shame all the old growth Tensas pine were cut out in the 1800s.
Where was the old growth pine in Tensas?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 5:18 am to
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Haha. I hear ya. Augusta National would be pretty ugly with you in charge. That’s the type of trees I’m talking about here.

There's a big difference between loblolly pine in a yard or more natural setting and an unnatural monoculture like a plantation.

Frick a loblolly pine plantation. But I'll take a longleaf pine savannah over hardwoods any day.

But as to the question, as others have said, it's probably the beetle. Those things are destructive.
Posted by WhuckFistle
Member since Jul 2015
2991 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 5:24 am to
The local news here in Little Rock had a story about the loblolly pines dying out and they can’t figure out. A few years ago they mentioned the beetle, but during the story they mentioned severe weather changes. How it was a rapid drought early this year and then too much rain or something like that.

Long story short, they don’t know shite it seems.

Here is the news article

KATV
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 5:29 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 6:43 am to
Not hard to imagine pine’s struggling where they don’t belong.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1744 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:59 am to
Interestingly enough, did you know that “loblolly” means marshy or swampy? The trees I’m talking about seemed to thrive for the last several decades.
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 8:03 am
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:28 am to
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Where was the old growth pine in Tensas?
I’m being as arse, there were none, other than human transplants they do not grow in Tensas Parish naturally except possibly for a few wind blown. My family property had a few, I think by what were likely old homesites. I’d reckon the early settler types possibly wanted to diversify from red oak and red gum.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:30 am to
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To hell with a pine tree


What y'all got against pine trees? They've made our family plenty of money in the last 100 years.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:32 am to
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But as to the question, as others have said, it's probably the beetle. Those things are destructive
I don’t know how far pine beetles travel, but why would they seek out isolated pine trees?

I’d chalk it up to herbicide. Y’all noticed cypress around field edges lately- look like they’ve been nuked. Possible cause: Dicamba or Valor herbicide?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:39 am to
Cypress is particularly sensitive to certain ones. I had an overspray case involving gramoxone and glyphosate and the cypresses on the edge of the fields affected looked really bad.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1744 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 9:18 am to
It’s the trendy thing on the OB these days.

While they can be managed to provide good deer and turkey habitat fairly easily due their tolerance of fire and many herbicides, that’s done in spite of the fact that the tree itself provides very little deer and turkey value. This is also true of the en vogue longleaf pine. Some more hot takes… Truth be told, the heralded cherrybark oak isn’t all that valuable to a deer or turkey compared to quality early successional plants. Trees help hunters more than the game. Forests are a relatively new thing in many parts of the South, where pine and oak savannahs dominated.
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 9:21 am
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