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Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:26 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:26 am
I’m planting 30 acres of vetch this summer. I have planted vetch for the past 3 years. Would it be smart to plant ladino clover on some of these acres instead of Vetch? Usually ladino is going dormant when the vetch is booming.
Quick overview is that we used to plant a lot of ladino, but floods and weed pressure made me switch gears. Now I am thinking about reintroducing ladino on the high grounds. My problem is that ladino sucks in the late summer, but vetch is basically nonexistent March-Mid May. I kind of feel like clover would be the better option with maybe spreading vetch and clipping the ladino in mid-late July when I see a storm rolling through.
Should I stick with all vetch, or put some in clover then spread vetch later? I’m down for other opinions too. I’m on the tractor so shoot away.
Quick overview is that we used to plant a lot of ladino, but floods and weed pressure made me switch gears. Now I am thinking about reintroducing ladino on the high grounds. My problem is that ladino sucks in the late summer, but vetch is basically nonexistent March-Mid May. I kind of feel like clover would be the better option with maybe spreading vetch and clipping the ladino in mid-late July when I see a storm rolling through.
Should I stick with all vetch, or put some in clover then spread vetch later? I’m down for other opinions too. I’m on the tractor so shoot away.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 12:39 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 5:47 am to Outdoorreb
This fall plant mixture of Marshall ryegrass and crimson clover. Both are high protein winter forage that lasts until late spring. During summer, place a couple gravity feeders filled with protein pellets.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:14 am to Outdoorreb
From my experience nothing beats Vetch in Late July, August and early September when the heat had the deer stressed and the does are lactating.
It's also hard to beat clover when done right, it's perennial and just a little spraying to keep the grass down and clipping to keep it think keep it going.
That being said the deer eat our clover in spring and summer but it's not near the food source for us that many others have. I don't know why but deer don't just hammer it and we clip it to keep it tender and spray the grass to keep the clover dominant.
I like vetch and large plots of soybeans the best with a little clover mixed in for spring/summer.
It's also hard to beat clover when done right, it's perennial and just a little spraying to keep the grass down and clipping to keep it think keep it going.
That being said the deer eat our clover in spring and summer but it's not near the food source for us that many others have. I don't know why but deer don't just hammer it and we clip it to keep it tender and spray the grass to keep the clover dominant.
I like vetch and large plots of soybeans the best with a little clover mixed in for spring/summer.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:29 am to Da Hammer
60 acres of beans and 30 acres of vetch. I heard on some podcast (probably MSU’s) that bucks need the protein the most early spring.
Don’t get me to lie about the % of horn production by early May. That is kind of what got me to thinking about reintroducing ladino in some spots.
P.S. I feed year round with protein except December and January.
Don’t get me to lie about the % of horn production by early May. That is kind of what got me to thinking about reintroducing ladino in some spots.
P.S. I feed year round with protein except December and January.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:36 am to Da Hammer
In the fall, I add about 6 lbs./acre of Durana white clover to my Buck Busters winter mix. This gives me year around food plots with only having to plant once a year. I clip it 2-3 times in the late spring and summer and spray it with Volunteer once and I'm good to go. Just make sure there is some moisture in the ground when you clip it in the summer. The deer love it and I have seen some good results with regards to antler growth. I would recommend soil testing before you plant.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:58 am to Bayou Ken
I’m trying to decide what to do right now as well.
I’m going over today and trying to get my dove field planted.
My deer plots are loaded in clover and wheat right now. I probably need to run the bush hog over it.
I may plant some vetch and was wondering about planting a few strips of soybeans.
I’m going over today and trying to get my dove field planted.
My deer plots are loaded in clover and wheat right now. I probably need to run the bush hog over it.
I may plant some vetch and was wondering about planting a few strips of soybeans.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:47 am to Outdoorreb
If you have 60 acres of beans, I’d go with the clover.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:29 am to Outdoorreb
We planted a blend in East Texas about 4 weeks ago which consisted of about 50% iron clay peas and then a lower percentage of grain sorghum, sun hemp, buckwheat, collards, purple top turnips, and sunflower. After I covered the broadcasted blend using a drag harrow I top dressed it with a clover mix (durana, crimson, and white). Have great germination so far. I like the idea of planting a blend for the same reason that you mentioned - you can have different plants that are preferred throughout the entire growing season. One species may be preferred early summer and as that one phases out another one is just getting to it's prime. We planted about 4 acres spread out between 5 different plots, so no where near the scale you are planting. I have read a lot of great things about Durana for the south, but this will be the first time trying it.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 4:17 pm to Outdoorreb
Several years ago I planted durana and it has done well as long as I mow it and spray (early with weak gly, or later with clethodim). It reseeds. I had tried crimson as well and it always grew well but it wasnt visited as much by deer and turkeys so I dont mess with it anymore.
In the fall I top seed triticale and black forage oats for the winter.
Has worked well for me. I am in zone 8.
In the fall I top seed triticale and black forage oats for the winter.
Has worked well for me. I am in zone 8.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:45 pm to AyyyBaw
You planted crimson clover in April?
Posted on 4/30/22 at 3:41 am to turkish
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You planted crimson clover
Over and over
Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:14 am to turkish
Yes, had a 5# bag in my garage so I threw it in. If it dies when it gets really hot and dry no big deal. Plenty of other stuff in that mix that won’t die at that time.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 8:42 am to Outdoorreb
If you can find it, alyce clover is your solution. But it’s been slim pickings for Alyce clover seed the last few years. And for those uninitiated few, alyce clover is actually not a clover- but the Alyce/Vetch mix is the secret sauce for the south LA “summer” temps that last from April to December.
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