re: Official AR-15 thread

Ok gentlemen, I've only shot an AR once in my life and I want one.

Not looking to build one, just want to buy one. What little research leads me to start with a 556 probably in a 16" barrel. Thinking of a budget of about $1500.

Am I on the right track?

Open to any suggestions on what to look at, and where. I'm near Baton Rouge.

ETA: I just read Carson's OP, which was in 2012. The leader in the $1000 range still S&W, Stag and Rock River?

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599.99 at PSA right now

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if his budget is $1500, he'd be better off getting one of the new PSA Sabre models.


PSA "SABRE" FORGED 16" 5.56 FN CHF CL 15" KNURLED SLANT RAIL SABRE FURNITURE RIFLE - $959.99

PSA "SABRE" FORGED 16" 5.56 FN CHF CL 15" KNURLED SLANT RAIL B5 BRAVO RIFLE - $969.99

Remaining Sabre Rifles...

Also, I just learned this this week... the 13.7 and 14.5 barrels in the Sabre line are "Pin and Welded" meaning the muzzle device has been permanently fixed to the barrel and is now part of the overall length of the barrel. so, instead of a 16" barrel and adding a flash hider to make it 17 or 18", that max length of the Sabre barrel is just over 16". so you get the features of an "SBR", but since it's technically over 16" with the muzzle device, you don't have to register it with the NFA and ATF.


Spend the rest on optics and accessories.


Barrel Length: 16"
Gas System: Mid-Length
Barrel Steel: Cold Hammer Forged Chrome Moly Vanadium
Barrel Finish: Phosphate
Chrome Lined: Yes
Muzzle Thread: 1/2-28
Chamber: 5.56 NATO
Twist Rate: 1:7
Barrel Extension: M4
Diameter at Gas Block: .750
Muzzle Device: Sabre Compensator
Receiver Material: Forged 7075 T6
Receiver Type: M4 T-Marked
Hand Guard Type: 15" Knurled Slant Rail
Bolt Carrier Group: PSA Custom Fathers of Freedom BCG by MicroBest with Sprinco Extractor Spring
Bolt Steel: Carpenter 158
Bolt Carrier Finish: Mag-Phosphate Finish
Charging Handle: Radian Raptor LT
Trigger: Hiperfire RBT Trigger with JP Reduced Power Springs
Takedown/Pivot Pins: Battle Arms Development
Buffer: Carbine
Safety: Radian Talon 45/90 Safety
Buffer Spring: Sprinco White
Pistol Grip: Sabre
Stock: Sabre
Finish: Black
Furniture Color: Black
Lower Material: Forged Aluminum

Barrel: 16" barrel chambered in 5.56 NATO, 1:7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a mid-length gas system. Barrel is finished off with a PSA 15" Knurled Slant Rail, and a Sabre compensator.

This barrel is made especially for Palmetto State Armory by FN Manufacturing using their proprietary blend of hammer forged chrome molly vanadium that is referred to as "Machine Gun Steel" by virtue of its use in FN's M249 and M240 weapons. The hammer forging process work hardens the steel, making it more durable. In addition, the chrome process for the bore allows for a lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16 for enhanced durability.

Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. These uppers are T-Marked engraved.

Bolt Carrier Group: Father’s of Freedom BCG by Microbest with Sprinco Extractor Spring and Carpenter 158 MP Bolt.

Lower: Palmetto State Armory complete Sabre-15 lower with Sabre stock and grip. Black finish. Marked multi-caliber. Comes Standard with Springco Buffer Spring, Battle Arms Development Pivot/Takedown Pins, Hiperfire RBT Trigger, JP Reduced Power Springs, and Anti-Walk Pins.

Made in America and compatible with all AR-15 uppers.

i was so close to buying one of the few models they had earlier this week, but i held off. i had recently bought one gun per week the past 3 weeks.


Colt Python
Colt King Cobra
Taurus GX4 XL

really didn't need another AR, so to get my "fix", i started to add to my current one a little bit along with my PSAK-47 GF3.

Thanks for the suggestion. Where would I have one shipped if I purchased off of their site? Again, I’m near BR.

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Where would I have one shipped if I purchased off of their site? Again, I’m near BR.

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You need to ship to an FFA who will receive the rifle and do the paperwork for you. PSA lists out their FFAs by zip code at checkout.

Have you ever shot, owned, stripped, or cleaned a firearm before? Have you ever shot, owned, stripped, or cleaned an AR15 before?

If not, you might want to look into a private beginner class with someone who can show you the basics and teach you to shoot. I know a few here can recommend you some people or places in BR.

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Thinking of a budget of about $1500.

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If you're looking to spend that much just get an LWRC DI MLOK. Fully ambi and has a fluted HBAR.

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If you don't care about ambi though it's hard to beat the IWI Zion 15 for around $850.

Me personally $1500 is X95 territory but that's obviously not an AR15.

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The bolts are 8620 steel and have a lifetime warranty. Not sure what’s the problem.

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That the whole thing is coated NiB right down to the bolt and extractor. If it was just the exterior surface that would be one thing, but coating the gas system components and extractor is. The extractor is obvious, that's one part you do not want slick. It not something you want inside the gas system because NiB's structure makes it fragile, it cracks and erodes quickly especially were the gas rings ride. Also, no NiB coating has passed DoD testing for corrosion resistance. Not one. A standard mil-spec BCG with a little CLP will far outperform NiB BCGs in standardized corrosion tests. NiB is cheap, it's easy for environmental compliance, and it being slick appeals to the lazy.

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lsufan1971

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Question for you and others who have rattle canned a AR. I have a few that I built with parts from different vendors and the upper lower and HG are not the same shade of black (tragic I know ). It pains my OCD but I dont think to the point of paying a lot to make the guns just black. How does the rattle can finish come out? Does it look sorta like cerakote or completely different? Does it fill in the roll marks much? I have some PSA meme lowers that have shallow etching.

Pic of my lite boi for fun since I just took it. Factory built .300blk. I did swap out the bcg with one of their titanium adj bcg. I’m waiting to see reviews of the rugged Alaskan Ti but I’d like to use that for this one because it’s insanity light. Ultimately a NOX35 would be awesome on top but that’s a un known at this point.

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What’s the consensus on an aftermarket trigger?

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I’ve got a CMC single stage in my SBR and love it