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re: OB electricians... what is this going to cost?

Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:28 am to
Why though, risk a claim on your insurance, deductable, etc... when it was a dead tree. That makes them liable, at least according to my louisiana arborist test.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:30 am to
*wonders if negligence would cause neighbors liability claim to be denied*
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:39 am to
May be a good time to get your power brought in underground. Won't have to worry about that problem again.
Posted by wickowick
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:41 am to
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Why though, risk a claim on your insurance, deductable, etc... when it was a dead tree. That makes them liable, at least according to my louisiana arborist test.


This, if we were talking 10k in damage I might look to file a homeowners claim, but not in this instance. It will cost you more in the long run...
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:41 am to
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The not removing of a dead tree is negligence though. Different than healthy tree falling during act of god.


That sounds logical.
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:02 pm to
Be sure to salvage the copper...that's super expensive these days. (of course make sure the lines aren't hot).

1. Get a quote for all repairs from a general contractor (electrical, siding, trim, paint, everything).

2. Compare the general contractor quote to your HOI deductible.

3a. If the quote is more than double your deductible, file a claim with your own HOI company, then go to your neighbor and say "hey, my insurance company wants me to get your insurance company information to figure out how to handle this...got an extra cold beer layin' around?." Then call the neighbor's HOI company and ask to be compensated for your deductible.

3b. If the quote is less than double your deductible, then don't say a word to your HOI...it'll only get your rates raised. Instead, go to your neighbor and say "hey, my insurance company wants me to get your insurance company information to figure out how to handle this...got an extra cold beer layin' around?." (Yeah, it's a lie, but it may get you more cooperation and a cold beer.) Then call the neighbor's insurance company and file a claim.

The fact is that a dead tree is negligence...period. If you have documentation of its "deadness" in a photo, then you should be on solid ground.

Now if it ever comes to the point that you feel that either your insurance company or the other insurance company is fricking you by more than 10%, then hire a "Public Adjuster" to handle the claim...their fee is 10% of the total claim amount, but they sure know how to get the maximum out of an insurance company. I've even found that merely mentioning the word "Public Adjuster" makes an insurance company suddenly cooperate more than an attorney can.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:25 pm to
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3a. If the quote is more than double your deductible, file a claim with your own HOI company,


Unless the damage is thousands more than your deductible I do not recommend this course of action...


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I've even found that merely mentioning the word "Public Adjuster" makes an insurance company suddenly cooperate more than an attorney can.


Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
3185 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:32 pm to
I take it you had a bad experience with a Public Adjuster? That would be a first.

My experience is that they get far more than 10% than I can out of an insurance company, plus I don't have to deal with the hassle.
Posted by wickowick
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:35 pm to
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I take it you had a bad experience with a Public Adjuster? That would be a first.

My experience is that they get far more than 10% than I can out of an insurance company, plus I don't have to deal with the hassle.



They never change my mind, but sometimes it is nice to see them to take an irate insured out of the picture. A contractor can argue for you without the need to give up 10%. You just had a bad adjuster...
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:57 pm to
Guess I had a string of bad adjusters over 30+ years. (Farmer's Ins of Texas was the worst...twice tried to settle for 20-30% less than due). My public adjuster once pursued action through the state insurance commission...insurance company changed its tune after refusing to budge for months.

Haven't had a single problem since switching to Amica). Seems that reasonable adjusters don't have these problems.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46361 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 1:59 pm to
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Haven't had a single problem since switching to Amica). Seems that reasonable adjusters don't have these problems.



Good and bad ones with every company...
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 2:34 pm to
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You're responsible for your own repairs. It considered an "act of God".


Sorry to say, but I'm almost sure the insurance companys will tell you this.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 2:57 pm to
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Sorry to say, but I'm almost sure the insurance companys will tell you this.



what he's saying is lets assume you have Healthy Tree A on Neighbor A's Property. Act of God occurs and falls on Neighbor B's Double Wide. Neighbor B's insurance policy will be the one to pick up the damage even though Neighbor A's tree. Considered act of god.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3850 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:54 pm to
After a long day on the phone got it all fixed. Total of $2,100 insurance is cutting me a check for $1,100. Said they didn't want to get other party involved. Worked it out to where my insurance won't go up. Thanks for the help fellas
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11025 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:08 pm to
if the tree was dead, his insurance company pays. if the tree was alive its considered an "act of God" and your company pays.
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