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new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:55 pm
Having bought a 28 nosler a few months ago along with a 6.5 prc, I was reading the new hodgdon manual and read about the 27 nosler. I really couldnt see a benefit over the 28 from the 27 nosler? I know it is an updated 270, but 7mm bullets are much better BC and can shoot up to 195 gr with the 28 vs 165 with the 27. Both are long actions and the 28 only uses i think 7-12 more grains of powder. Both on the top end heaviest bullets listed are around 2950
Now comparing the 27 nosler to the 6.5 prc, the 27 shooting 170 at 2950 vs the prc at 156 at around 2850. But PRC is a short action vs long action. 6.5 bullets are I believe the most ballistically coefficient bullets comparative to weight.
Just curious what your thoughts were about this new cartridge. Ive been a big fan of the nosler cartridges and really thing the 28 nosler has the best chance at staying power vs the other named noslers.
Now comparing the 27 nosler to the 6.5 prc, the 27 shooting 170 at 2950 vs the prc at 156 at around 2850. But PRC is a short action vs long action. 6.5 bullets are I believe the most ballistically coefficient bullets comparative to weight.
Just curious what your thoughts were about this new cartridge. Ive been a big fan of the nosler cartridges and really thing the 28 nosler has the best chance at staying power vs the other named noslers.
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:57 pm to Lucky_Stryke
I don’t think the 27 will gain traction.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:03 pm to Lucky_Stryke
Not enough bullets to make the 27 popular.
7mm/284 and 6.5 have a huge selection of bullets already available.
7mm/284 and 6.5 have a huge selection of bullets already available.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:11 pm to Lucky_Stryke
I have the 28 also. When the 27 came out I said something along the lines of “that’s pretty badass, but I’ll keep my 28” and then I kind of quit looking into it. I compared the 26,28 and 30 for a little while before deciding to go with the 28. I believe if the 27 was an option when I bought mine, I still would have gone 28. Especially if I ever decide to go elk hunting or something, I would rather the bigger bullet options. For deer, I shoot 160’s and they never go far, if they even take a step lol
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:15 pm to kengel2
Kinda along the lines of a .25 caliber to me.
It’s an odd number in an even number world.
I say this as a guy that owns and loves a .257wby.
It’s an odd number in an even number world.
I say this as a guy that owns and loves a .257wby.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:38 pm to bbvdd
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Kinda along the lines of a .25 caliber to me.
It’s an odd number in an even number world.
I say this as a guy that owns and loves a .257wby.
I love quarter bores and have a 25/06 and .257wby.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:38 pm to 257WBY
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I don’t think the 27 will gain traction
That was my thoughts as well, At first i was like hell yea a suped up 270! But then I looked at ballistics and 277 diameter for the 270/27 and .284 for the 28. I realized why would you not choose the 28?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2
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7mm/284 and 6.5 have a huge selection of bullets already available.
Exactly. Both sizes are much better ballistically and that what i was saying in my post. Both have way better bullet selection in better grain weights compared to the 270. It poses the question that if Jack O Conner hadnt made the cartridge famous early on, I wonder how it would have fared on its own?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:45 pm to A_bear
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I have the 28 also. When the 27 came out I said something along the lines of “that’s pretty badass, but I’ll keep my 28” and then I kind of quit looking into it. I compared the 26,28 and 30 for a little while before deciding to go with the 28. I believe if the 27 was an option when I bought mine, I still would have gone 28. Especially if I ever decide to go elk hunting or something, I would rather the bigger bullet options. For deer, I shoot 160’s and they never go far, if they even take a step lol
I have some 168 vlds and some 195 gr EOL bergers. Havent done load development yet but ive been able to score some retumbo, h1000, 8133 powders so im optimistic about them. I may even try some 175 eldx. Hornady has always shot well in my rifles, i just wish it was heavier
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:21 pm to Lucky_Stryke
Not too many guns chambered in the Nosler rounds. What brand guns you fellas have?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:24 pm to GREENHEAD22
I have a fierce rival in 28 nosler, and a browning hells canyon in 6.5 prc. It also comes in a 28 nosler. Chiristensen makes some 28 noslers but i dont like them at all.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:49 pm to GREENHEAD22
Mines a nosler m48 mountain carbon
I thought about going with the long range carbon but I really wanted a light weight gun since I do a lot of walking on public land.
I thought about going with the long range carbon but I really wanted a light weight gun since I do a lot of walking on public land.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:21 pm to A_bear
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nosler m48 mountain carbon
Grouping? Honestly interested to know the difference between a $1200 rifle and $3k one
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:39 pm to SportTiger1
Carbon barrel.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:52 pm to SportTiger1
It groups well enough to deer hunt with for sure. I don’t have a legit bench set up nor do I spend time at the range measuring groups. So I spent the money on it for a light weight hunting rifle. It doesn’t do anything that a $1,200 rifle can’t do performance wise. I was actually a little upset that Savage released the 110 ultra light about 2 months after I got my rifle. I might have bought it for half the price of mine.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:08 am to bbvdd
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Carbon barrel.
And this does what for me exactly? Genuinely curious
The only custom rifles I've ever thought about buying was a hill country rifle with 1/2 moa guarantee. I'm not sure how you could get more accurate than that.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:36 am to SportTiger1
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And this does what for me exactly?
That’s a hard question to answer. People really have mixed feelings on them and there doesn’t seem to be many facts about the advantage of a carbon barrel. They are lighter than a steel barrel of the same size, that is a fact. However, some people might not be worried about weight. Not everyone plans to pack their rifle around. Supposedly carbon barrels are stiffer and dissipate heat quicker, resulting in longer barrel life. However, some people’s research from what I’ve read, concluded this to be very minimal.
My barrel is a proof research barrel which is what I wanted. It’s probably no more accurate than any other quality barrel on the market. I’m sure it shaved some weight down, being that my rifle weighs 6 pounds. Other than that, it just looks cool.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:37 am to Lucky_Stryke
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curious what your thoughts were about this new cartridge.
Aren't they based on the .404 Jeffrey, like the rem ultra mags were except shortened to 30-06 length?
They're probably what the win mags should have been originally. Winchester kinda screwed up doing the 458 first and then basing everything on that. Its the only one that needs the belt of all the belted 2.5" magnums. 375 h&h wasn't the best starting point for short blown out cases, .404 Jeffrey makes way more sense.
I agree the 28 has the best staying power of the noslers and if I got one, that's probably the one I would get. I think the .30 market is too saturated with new shiny stuff, same with the 6.5's
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:46 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I looked and it says they are based off of 300 rum cases but arent belted. I remember reading about a newer cartridge that was based off the 404 but cant think of it. Maybe the 300 prc? I do also believe the 6.5 and 30 cal markets are becoming flooded with new cartridges that will make it harder for them to become more that just a designer cartridge.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The 300WSM is based off the 404.
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