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Muzzleloader
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:31 am
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:31 am
My cousin let me borrow his Optima .50 cal muzzleloader to see how I like it and said I could buy it if I did. So I have been sitting here cleaning the barrel and it had some rust but after a real good clean it seems like there are still some rust spots inside the barrel. My question is would these rust spots harm the function of the rifle and if so is the rifle junk or could the barrel be re-rifled. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get the rust spots out or what plan of action to take I would appreciate it. I dont know much about muzzleloaders.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:35 am to AdmiralApe
Shoot it and see how accurate it is. If you hunt in Louisiana or Mississippi, I don’t think I’d even let him give it to me.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:43 am to 257WBY
I hunt in Louisiana. Im running patch after patch with cleaner on it and its coming out a real dark brown every time. Ive run a brass brush through it too.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:47 am to AdmiralApe
Save yourself a bunch of headaches and buy a 35 whelen .That gun would be a wall hanger or take up space on you gun safe .
This post was edited on 1/4/22 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:26 am to AdmiralApe
I borrowed one last year to hunt in IL. I bought it this year to go to IL, and I also used it in MO to hunt with a friend who has never hunted and he bagged his 1st deer with it last week. It's nice to have if you have options up north, but like everyone else says, you won't have a need for it here.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:29 am to AdmiralApe
My guess, your cousin didn't thoroughly clean the rifle after he last shot it. ML's are notorious for being dirty with lots of bore fouling depending on the powder used. If not cleaned, humidity sets in and the bore begins to rust. As others have mentioned, go shoot it. If it's accurate enough to hit the deer vitals at 75-100 yds., then you're good to go.
That in-line ML rifle utilizes the 209 primer ignition system, and you can load up to 150 grs of black powder or pyrodex pellets Are you loading a .50 caliber ball with patch, or a .45 caliber bullet with a sabot ? IMO, if the price is right, buy it and have fun.
That in-line ML rifle utilizes the 209 primer ignition system, and you can load up to 150 grs of black powder or pyrodex pellets Are you loading a .50 caliber ball with patch, or a .45 caliber bullet with a sabot ? IMO, if the price is right, buy it and have fun.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:31 am to AdmiralApe
Chances are a very good cleaning and it will be more than fine. You are looking at 150 yard or under shots anyway with a scope and much closer without one.
Blackpowder is hell on metal if not cleaned every time.
Blackpowder is hell on metal if not cleaned every time.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:38 am to Got Blaze
Yes I have come to find out this is a common problem with muzzleloaders. He obviously didnt clean it for about 5 years. I’m using .50 cal bullet with sabot. He gave me a bag full of them, with the 209 primers and pre-formed pellets. He said he would sell it to me with all the supplies and two scopes for $100 so I figured I couldnt pass it up. Im not looking to make past 100 yard shots anyways. I just killed two bucks this past week and both were under 100 yards. Just looking to try something different other than the ole .270. I heard something about JB bore paste helping clean out muzzleloaders so will probably give that a try and just go shoot it and see.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:57 am to AdmiralApe
I wanted to add this, I have mine sighted in at 100 yards, I also know that at 200 yards I have 8" of drop. It was necessary to figure all this out when planning to hit IL, those long wide open corn fields could pose some long shots. The deer my buddy bagged in MO was at 177 yards. For longer shots I always setup using a death grip to hold for extra stability. 100$ is a great deal.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:04 am to AdmiralApe
Absolutely take it for 100 bucks. Those .50 in-lines are stupid accurate out to 150 if set up correctly. I bought my first when I was in Texas for late season muzzleloader. I've used it out west and also here in PA. I did just pick up a flintlock for late PA season as well. Can never have too many options.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:08 am to way_south
I was going to sight it in at 100 yards. The scope he had on it was a Bushnell Trophy 1x28 red dot but the other scope he gave me was a Bushnell Banner 3-9x40 which is what I will probably put on it instead. I always have a shooting stick in my bag for longer shots as well but like I said I usually never make shots past 100 yards just because of how thick it is where I hunt.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:15 am to TheNolaClap
I still use my grandfathers .54 cal black powder muzzleloader. Round ball, gotta measure the powder and Ram the damn thing in there and hope it fires when you try to shoot a deer. Smokes so much you can’t see if you even hit the deer
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:35 am to AdmiralApe
My guess is IF it would need to be rerifled, that would cost as much as buying a new one. It’s probably fine, though.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 12:59 pm to AdmiralApe
hot hot water and some dawn, use the jag with patch as the plunger and scrub the soap/water in and out till clean
Rinse with hot water and let it dry. Once dry, lightly oil and you should be good.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 1:27 pm to TrueTiger
This is what I do. T/C .50 cal and use next to boiling water and Dawn. A few times down the barrel and brush then jag patch. It will clean up.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 1:35 pm to canyon
quote:
This is what I do.
it's the old school way and it works
water is great at dissolving the chemical salts left by black powder and black powder substitutes. Hoppe's #9 doesn't do that job.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 4:49 pm to TrueTiger
It looks like the rust is just thick surface rust, i dont think its really pitted or started to make rust holes. I will try hot water and soap. Hopefully if I attack this with a couple different things I can get it pretty good.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 5:14 pm to AdmiralApe
Is it a regular Optima, or an Optima Elite ??
Posted on 1/4/22 at 5:59 pm to AdmiralApe
Once I waited a little long to get to mine and it developed a little surface rust.
I took a bronze brush and wrapped it in fine steel wool.
After a couple of brush passes it looked like a mirror.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 7:16 pm to EF Hutton
Its the regular Optima. The barrel says V2
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