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re: Miss. River Hunting Clubs (Giles Island spinoff)

Posted on 3/20/18 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
10310 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Could work


Does work

quote:

you loose pretty much all ability to harvest timber and modify the land


Conservation Values are "flexible" when setting up an easement.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86539 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 4:44 pm to
Isn't it dependent on the rise or fall of the water? Every time I've been there on a rise there's been mallards galore. Fall, we just deer hunt.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:14 pm to
My lease is on batture land in Tensas, and I'm concerned. But I felt like everyone "over-corned" everything anyway- around us and in our own club. Now that its stopping, I think the deer will move more. they would only come out right before sunset anyway, so could duck hunt all morning then go sit on a stand at 3 and see deer like clockwork at 4:45. I've duck hunted Tensas for four years now and enjoyed it. Cant speak for Davis/Diamond, but this past season, didn't see much duck activity until 2nd split. But when they came right before Christmas, DAMN. I alone could go to my honey hole and limit twice a weekend on mallards, woodies, teal, and gadwall. Now 2 yrs ago, we had too much fall rain, they didn't have to move around a lot to find water and it was spotty. And there's the running talk on the OB about flyway shifting west yada yada yada...
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20601 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:37 pm to
I just know that duck hunting is secondary at most of the big river clubs. They use to smash them on the lake that is on diamond but not so much anymore.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:38 pm to
past three yrs, I have seen them rafted up on Lake St. Joe and Yucatan by the THOUSANDS

But, yeah, I see your point. I turned down offers to join at Big Rack and another one b/c to duck hunt, I would only be using club land to access the north end of Yucatan and hunt the timber...dont have OT money, so not buying an equity share anytime soon either!
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 5:40 pm
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6902 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:52 pm to
Is lake st. joe public or leased out? Always heard it’s public but never believed it.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 6:09 pm to
I've always heard the same about Lake St. Joe being public to hunt and fish. I would access through public launch in Newellton. The shore line is either ROW by the highway or private, you would need to watch for shot fall too I guess...never personally known anyone that goes out there to duck hunt though
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
431 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:45 pm to
/Conservation Values are "flexible" when setting up an easement./

So you have done this before?
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17277 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:48 pm to
All ive ever seen on lake St. Joe is rafts f ring necks, and a few green tops when it backs out into the surrounding private fields.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5243 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:10 pm to
He probably means the terms (timber management, subdivision into smaller parcels, construction of improvements, surface mining, etc) of the conservation easement are flexible.

The valuation of a conservation easement donation is not what l would refer to as "flexible," unless you deal with some professionals in the field who have "flexible" ethics. Not a wise choice if you are taking a tax deduction based on the donation of the conservation easement.
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
431 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:39 pm to
|The valuation of a conservation easement donation is not what l would refer to as "flexible," unless you deal with some professionals in the field who have "flexible" ethics. Not a wise choice if you are taking a tax deduction based on the donation of the conservation easement.|

This

Yea, some of these statements on here make it sound like a golden parachute which in some cases may be true but you definitely have to forfeit rights to the land use to keep the money. I guess if you bought in 30 years ago and all debt is paid up you are good but many clubs are newer and might not have many options if share prices fall.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10791 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:11 pm to
Are there any fees paid after paying the purchase price for the share? Or does that purchase price give me access for as long as I own the share?
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:35 pm to
You can step on every acre on the property, take a dump, and claim I just shite on my dirt.

Now if you would like to count out 1/20 of my ownership be my guest, but I'm standing on my dirt.... and my shite.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86539 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Big Rack
Still no Sunday hunting, right?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:23 am to
I can answer that for you.

Flooding. My Camp is 28000 acres but our Camp area has now gone underwater 3 out of last 5 years. This has caused huge deer migration to higher ground. Where I used to see 100s of deer now see Few.

CWD
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