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re: Mature whitetail with one side of antlers "deformed", what would you do?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:38 pm to Farmtiger
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:38 pm to Farmtiger
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Not sure why you would cull this deer without knowing why the other side was gone.
This information was not given. I said cull because I can see that one side is missing. This can be from genetics or fighting. Genetics deserve a cull and fighting can cause infection and disease. With no other information and a bad picture, I still say cull.
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He could have been injured when he was young or at the beginning of the season thus why it did not grow.
Quite possible. However, that information was not given.
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If that is the case his genetics are what you want in the pool.
Clearly.
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:40 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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TheDrunkenTigah
Leave redman alone. Hes our token special poster.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:02 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
I put quotations around the word "missing" because I didn't know how else to word it in the title. I have always called these types of deer "fonky horn" deer. I explained in the first post that it appeared to be a vertical point, which to me indicates that it wasn't broken off.
If this would have been on public land, I would have given it more thought. I never really considered harvesting the deer because there is a good chance he has great genetics. This would have been the biggest deer I ever killed if it was anything remotely close to symmetrical.
If this would have been on public land, I would have given it more thought. I never really considered harvesting the deer because there is a good chance he has great genetics. This would have been the biggest deer I ever killed if it was anything remotely close to symmetrical.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:04 pm to mcneil912
I understand. I just say cull for my previously stated reasons. This too would be my largest deer, by far. However, I find little reason to keep him and risk losing him or it being bad genetics.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:13 pm to mcneil912
If that is the only two pics I had of him I would wait and try to get better pics this coming season. If he grows another set just like this and you have pics of this before the fighting begins then shoot him with a quickness. Keep these pics and compare to next year and you may find that you have a wall hanger on your hands because you waited and didnt kill him.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:16 pm to mcneil912
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while hunting near Columbus, Texas
Which part I hunt pretty close to Columbus and have a buddy that has about 42 acres just west of Columbus.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:19 pm to Rebman601
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If you haven't already figured out most on here don't know jack shite about the outdoors so prepare for horrible advice
Whoa. Prepare your anus. Last person that made such an allegation got banned.
I agree with you. There are alot of people here that don't know shite. But there are some who do, so take everything with a grain of salt.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:41 pm to Rebman601
If that place is managed well I don't know how that deer made it to maturity with a cull side that bad without being taken out. Which would lead me to believe it is broken but those pictures suck. We have made mistakes thinking deer had a cull side when in fact they were just broken up from fighting.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:46 pm to Motorboat
This is a "classic example" of why having quality optics is critical when hunting. I always spend as much as I can afford on scopes and binos.
Making that kind of judgment call is tough as it is, but having clear information to base that call on is invaluable. BUY GOOD OPTICS
Making that kind of judgment call is tough as it is, but having clear information to base that call on is invaluable. BUY GOOD OPTICS
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:51 pm to Rebman601
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If you haven't already figured out most on here don't know jack shite about the outdoors so prepare for horrible advice
Damn
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:51 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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Cull
"Culling" it really does nothing...
If you like whats on its head right now Shoot it, but dont shoot it as a "cull" deer...
If you have pics of him from years past and its the same story yeah you should probably shoot it..
People saying you have to cull it to get the genes out of the deer heard dont realize that that one certain deers genes are already spread throughout that property by his offspring of the years past. You would have to shoot every one of his offspring including his parents and all the does this bucks dad banged to get that certain deers genes off the property.. So basically, culling does not do as much as people think it does.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:56 pm to DeboseKnows
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So basically, culling does not do as much as people think it does.
so basically, you don't know what you're talking about..
It doesn't happen overnight but managing property has tremendous benefits. even low fence such as our lease
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:58 pm to greasemonkey
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It doesn't happen overnight but managing property has tremendous benefits. even low fence such as our lease
It starts with 1 deer. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:58 pm to greasemonkey
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:02 pm to AlxTgr
Where we going?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:07 pm to greasemonkey
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Where we going?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:15 pm to greasemonkey
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so basically, you don't know what you're talking about..
It doesn't happen overnight but managing property has tremendous benefits. even low fence such as our lease
The OP is asking what to do about this one buck.. He is not asking you guys how to manage a lease... I was saying, this one buck, if he wants to shoot it then he should shoot it. Dont shoot it if you think it will be a "cull" deer..
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:25 pm to mcneil912
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I find little reason to keep him and risk losing him or it being bad genetics.
Bad genetics was my only concern. I would rather him be better next year and another hunter get him than me getting him like that.
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Which part I hunt pretty close to Columbus and have a buddy that has about 42 acres just west of Columbus
I think it is officially in Sheridan, which is southwest of Columbus.
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This is a "classic example" of why having quality optics is critical when hunting
I looked at him through my scope for about 10 minutes. He was within 50 yards. I said that it was a vertical antler, which leads me to believe it wasn't broken. No set of optics could have told me that this was due to genetics or an injury.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:29 pm to mcneil912
He's got one side with six or seven on it and the other side is likely broken off. And you guys think that's a cull? What's the defect? He fights too much?
I'd let him walk and see what he looked like next year.
I'd let him walk and see what he looked like next year.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:31 pm to faxis
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He's got one side with six or seven on it and the other side is likely broken off. And you guys think that's a cull? What's the defect? He fights too much?
The OP has stated many times,
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I looked at him through my scope for about 10 minutes. He was within 50 yards. I said that it was a vertical antler, which leads me to believe it wasn't broken. No set of optics could have told me that this was due to genetics or an injury.
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