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re: LDWF thinking of suing Jindal over raid of Rigs to Reefs fund
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:03 am to Icansee4miles
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:03 am to Icansee4miles
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Your entire post tells me YOU are the one that's misguided
This should be fun.
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It's obvious that you've never fished around any of these structures.
I've fished the rigs off the coast of Fourchon since I was a child. On top of that, I am also a scuba diver and have dove the rigs on numerous occasions.
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The older ones are almost always the most productive, as the ecosystems they support have had more time to develop, and in the case of the shallower ones, the shell pads put down when the well was installed were larger.
I didn't say otherwise, clown.
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More than that, the ones that HAVE been converted to reefs are the hottest fishing spots in the GOM, as they receive less pressure than the standing rigs.
Obama's restrictions on drilling are not affecting those old structures. His rules have affected deepwater DRILLING more directly than production. I haven't heard of the administration shutting off and destroying any producing wells.
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Why don't you go watch some of the underwater footage shot by Captain Al Walker and come back and apologize for being so off base.
I don't need to. I've seen it firsthand.
You seem to have serious problems with comprehension. I am a big proponent of those reefs staying there. Hell, one of the very best rigs I've ever fished for mangroves and cobia got torn down about 2 years ago. When we showed up out there and the entire thing was gone, my heart sunk.
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:05 am to Jester
Bottom line: Obama is not why old non-producing rigs are being decommissioned. I never voted for the guy and am not an Obama supporter, but just like blaming everything bad on Bush was stupid, the same goes for Obama.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:09 am to Jester
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Jester
Take a breath dude. The rant called looking for you. They said it is time to come home.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:10 am to Motorboat
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Take a breath dude. The rant called looking for you. They said it is time to come home.
My nuts called. They're asking where your lips are.
Seriously, though, do you not like your topic being discussed? I'd be more than happy to turn this back into a discussion on the current education system in Louisiana. Should I request this be moved Political Talk?
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:14 am to Icansee4miles
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More than that, the ones that HAVE been converted to reefs are the hottest fishing spots in the GOM, as they receive less pressure than the standing rigs.
I think that has more to do with the location of the reefing sites. But we are really splitting hairs.
The real benefit of these structures is the vertical relief they provide. Coral reefs and volcanic islands are similar for sure, but just look at rig map of the GOM off LA's coast. We have these platforms scattered from 5'-5000' of water. The biodiversity is really hard to grasp unless you dive these things. Capt Al has some great footage, but cameras only capture so much.
And like Al, I say strip the things down and leave them standing. The top portion gets the must sunlight, cutting it off and dropping it along side really diminishes the benefit of the structure. Hopefully legislation will make it to the floor where the oil companies can turn them over to the state and assume the liability. In the meantime, there needs to be a moratorium in place to halt the removal.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:17 am to Jester
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Obama is not why old non-producing rigs are being decommissioned.
Actually he signed a bill expediting the removal of them.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:22 am to Capt ST
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And like Al, I say strip the things down and leave them standing. The top portion gets the must sunlight, cutting it off and dropping it along side really diminishes the benefit of the structure.
How far below the surface are they cutting them off? I really haven't seen enough details on the process. Seems like you have a pretty good handle on it. In close, it's probably below the layer of murk on the surface, I assume.
I mean, I understand that there is some balancing that needs to be considered with navigation, but it's not like boats have trouble getting around out there as it is. The bigger issue is as they begin to decay (which will happen pretty quickly when the companies stop paying to coat them with hard enamel paint frequently). At some point they will no longer be visible, but still be just below the surface. That is when they become a serious navigational hazard.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 11:23 am
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:22 am to Capt ST
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Actually he signed a bill expediting the removal of them.
I stand corrected.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:33 am to Jester
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How far below the surface are they cutting them off?
USCG requires so much draft, I think 50'. There has been some legislation passed to allow them to reef in place. They go down and cut the structure and drop the top half along side. But the areas approved for this are limited to over 400' of water.
With removal they go below sea floor to cut, then drag a shrimp net over the area and if they snag anything it is also removed.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:39 am to Jester
Thanks for the assist from the good Captain. Maybe you missed the part about me working for big oil? So maybe, just maybe, I know why the rigs are disappearing so rapidly and maybe, just maybe, I can follow the money being thrown at decommissioning companies back to Barry's campaign contributions. Maybe you should check your regulator better before your next dive, it appears your oxygen ratio might have been a little low in the past.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:02 pm to Capt ST
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With removal they go below sea floor to cut, then drag a shrimp net over the area and if they snag anything it is also removed.
This is what I had to assume. When our snapper rig was taken down, we ran sonar all over the top where we had it marked and saw absolutely nothing but the floor.
Random question: near one of the rigs we fish regularly out of Fourchon has an "obstruction" marked on the plotter north of the rig. On the plotter it says something about an abandoned well. What type of equipment do they leave behind down there? I've seen several boats fishing it, but I'm not 100% certain on the location to try it.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:11 pm to Icansee4miles
done
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 1:17 pm
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