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re: Judge rules that major portions of the National Firearms Act are unconstitutional

Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:51 am to
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:51 am to
I think people are cruising past the fact that the ATF is just choosing not to enforce the ruling for now and that change of office will likely result in overturned rulings and re-enforcement.

All of which will be very muddy without a form 4
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
73315 posts
Posted on 10/11/26 at 12:11 pm to
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It said “required federal tax stamp”


If the state is the one requiring a federal stamp, you'd need to have one.

Im no lawyer but if i was a dickhead prosecutor in Lousiana thats what I would say to burn you
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26782 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 3:42 pm to
LDWF just clarified the issue on their social media...

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Due to recent changes to federal law and guidance issued by the ATF, tax stamps are no longer required to legally possess a suppressor for your firearm. Given these changes, if your suppressor is legally possessed, and it is attached to a firearm that is legal for the season you are hunting, you are not violating state law and you are clear to use it to hunt.


Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
73315 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 4:14 pm to
Yep I just saw that as well. Very good and very clear message. Good job Louisiana (dont get to say that often)
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9373 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:00 pm to
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LDWF just clarified the issue on their social media...


Great news
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
70930 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:16 pm to
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LDWF just clarified the issue on their social media...

I think this just muddies the water even more.

1) The only federal law that's been changed is the $200 tax stamp. Federal registration and approval is still the law, they're just choosing not to enforce it...for now.

2) LA law follows federal guidance for the most part, meaning that going by the letter of the law, SBR, SBS, and Suppressors are still regulated.

3) While LDWF is quasi-law enforcement, I think you'll still want to wait for official AG or LSP guidance before running out and buying the items. To my knowledge, they've been silent on the issue so far.

4) The overarching issue with all of this is the ATF's guidance acknowledges that you could be screwed if/when these laws are enforced again, as there's no mechanism to register these items after you buy them, and there's no guarantee you'll be grandfathered in.
Posted by EFHogman
Member since May 2016
679 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 5:55 pm to
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The only federal law that's been changed is the $200 tax stamp. Federal registration and approval is still the law, they're just choosing not to enforce it...for now


I thought this was deemed unconstitutional if the DOJ does not appeal?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20237 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
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likely result in overturned rulings


Probably not. The ATF wouldn't do well trying to appeal to the 5th Circuit and then SCOTUS would certainly not be favorable to them. So if a future admin wanted to contain this as much as possible they'd leave it alone and try to re-establish the tax fee to something more than $0 through Congress.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20237 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 6:18 pm to
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they're just choosing not to enforce it...for now.


Not exactly, for those that fall under the original and future pool of members/customers party to the ruling, the ATF is enjoined from enforcement. They have no choice there. For the expanded guidance they have discretion.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
14474 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:33 pm to
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Federal registration and approval is still the law, they're just choosing not to enforce it...for now.
Entrapment by estoppel- a criminal defense grounded in the Due Process Clause that applies when a government official misleads a defendant into believing that a specific action is legal, and the defendant reasonably and in good faith relies on that advice before committing the act.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3656 posts
Posted on 10/15/26 at 9:00 am to
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Entrapment by estoppel- a criminal defense grounded in the Due Process Clause that applies when a government official misleads a defendant into believing that a specific action is legal, and the defendant reasonably and in good faith relies on that advice before committing the act.


Entrapment by Estoppel in Great Detail

Kirk ( among others) has been all over this subject.

Brings up good points regarding democrats taking over and gutting everything "accomplished" so far. I still contend this should have been done by law, striking down the NFA restrictions, not by budgetary means.

But that would mean counting on Congress to do the right thing - won't ever hold my breath for that to occur.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9373 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 10:45 am to
The law should have been repealed. I’m not sure how a budget will get passed if the dems take over the house. You know they will jack up the tax. There will be a huge fight over it. But, if the current Congress would have repealed it the proper way, who’s to say the democrats wouldn’t just reverse it anyway “the proper way”.

They are seething with anger over this.
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