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re: inshore fishing question

Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by MarshTiger
Member since Sep 2015
12 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:58 pm to
I can appreciate that. On the last trip to Delacroix I finally found what people are talking about when they refer to "clear" water. I always thought that just meant less dirty than most but sure enough I found a large patch of crystal clear moving water surrounding a grass bed. Picked up a red there in about 5 minutes too.

Other than clarity I typically look for pockets and points where I can see action on the top. I try to time my trips for good tidal and solunar action but life isnt always so accommodating.
Posted by MarshTiger
Member since Sep 2015
12 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:59 pm to
This is true. Since my only luck has been with corks while staying still I'm reluctant to fish while I'm paddling or riding the current/tide, especially if I've had success at a particular spot in the past.

I understand the logic though.
Posted by MarshTiger
Member since Sep 2015
12 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:05 pm to
No standing. It's not even a fishing kayak, just a cheap sit-in built for casual cruising. Its cramped, but very light and easy to get around in. If you ever see me putting around the marsh, feel free to point and laugh.

I'm considering upgrading but if I'm willing to drop $1000+ on a nice kayak I'd just as soon spend a bit more on an old used boat so I could bring the kids along. Pros and cons to both obviously.

Thanks for your reply. Lots of good advice in this thread that I look forward to trying out.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:10 pm to
I made spinners similar to those (see below) without the weighted hooks, and they don't catch any grass.

Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5362 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:39 pm to
Just to clear the confusion ... there is grass (like PAC and Golden Meadow/Bassons) and then there is grass + algae (Delacroix and Hopedale). The fresh water promotes a type of algae that can completely choke the water. The algae can get impossibly thick to fish and will catch on anything. The grass alone can be fished using weedless/inline spinner/spoon but when the algae takes over, you have to find a new area or at least the edges of algae.

TL;DR: grass =/= algae. algae cannot be fished weedless
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8492 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:45 pm to
I remember you had posted the details on building these but can't seem to find it again. I'm wanting to build my own as opposed to buying them at $8/each.


ETA: Disregard, found it.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:56 pm to
It's pretty damn easy once you get all the stuff. Comes out to $1.63 per.

This is what I use.

owner hook 3/0
size 2 clevice
4mm chart beads
4mm red beads
3.5 gold spinners
size 3 split ring
.026 straight wire shaft
size 10 barrel swivel
spacers
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Jakesonaplane
Denver
Member since Nov 2010
7286 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 2:58 pm to
Nothing is completely weedless, but these do very well in the grass. I fish Delacroix mostly so if something works in that thick grass it will work anywhere
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 3:01 pm to
I second AquaDream spoons.

How are people presenting spoons that they aren't ever getting hits? It's kind of fool proof. You can almost retrieve it any way and it will attract fish. I personally just do a steady retrieve. Only thing that I fish with as much or more is a spinner bait, which is just a gold spoon with a cocahoe below it.

I see a few of you guys say it's never worked for you and it appears that you all have a good bit of experience fishing. That just seems odd to me. I remember fishing with my cousin once and he made fun of the idea of using a spoon because he had never caught anything with one. It was a bad day and convinced him to tie one on. He limited out and I don't think he's used a different lure since
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8492 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 4:32 pm to
Admitably, I tried spoons when I first got into kayak fishing but never had any luck. At the time I marked it up to lack of experience and not knowing how/when to fish them so they sorta got set asside as topwaters, jigs, and inline spinners became my go-to lures. Since then I've yet to give them a legitmate shot as I've continued to have success with other lures.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 4:46 pm to
I love spoons just as much as the next guy. But a few weeks back I got my arse handed to be while the other guy threw spinner baits, right next to me
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 4:49 pm to
Spoons used to be my only bait when fishing for reds in shallow water. I haven't thrown a spoon since I found inline spinners.
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 11:50 pm to
Strong can you post where to buy the materials.. You buying online or retail stores?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 11:53 pm to
Online at Barlow's Tackle. Good prices and good selection.
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 12:16 am to
thank you sir
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41274 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 12:32 am to
I have a kayak and more times than not end up dropping an anchor and wading around to cast. I just get tired of sitting in it and can't seem to cast as accurately.

I'm a novice but generally use a popn cork with live shrimp. I've tried a spoon several times with no luck.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5890 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:35 am to
gold spoon all day every day unless you actually see them turning away from it. . then i'll switch to a havoc grass pig swimbait but that seldom happens. My partner and i have won a couple and placed in nearly every one of the last 8 years of the houma oilman with spoons
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
830 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:12 am to
You hold your rod tip up or down when fishing inline spinners?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:18 am to
Depends how far away the strike zone is, I guess. If it's far away, I'll keep it up (130ish) to keep the bait near the surface. If it's close, I'll keep the rod tip down to keep the bait in the water longer.

Never really thought about it, TBH.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 7:18 am
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:41 am to
Completely forgot my tackle box last trip and only had my freshwater stuff and what was tied on my rods.
brush hogs weightless and pocacraws absolutely destroyed the reds. the spinners I was using last time didn't catch compared to the hogs and craws.
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