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re: I’m seriously thinking of making a .243 AR10

Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:05 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:05 am to
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I thought you were a bow hunter??
You think I just woke up one day and started bow hunting? Turn your troll off. You're much better that way.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:08 am to
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Wow. That's a really persuasive argument you didn't make.

I was laying in bed ,on my phone, no glasses drunk with insomnia. I was just pointing out how bad your post was, and it was bad.

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There are times a bullet may need to penetrate bones (like ribs , but mainly upper leg) to get into the chest. I explained that in my post.

Ribs yes. No true bone. A rib is nothing for an arrow much less a .243 bullet. if you hit true bone, you've missed badly. People really need to pay more attention to anatomy.

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I explained all that in my post.
No, you did not. Waiting for the significant limitations

Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:10 am to
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but the 30-06 penetrates adequately to be a good hunting round. One doesn't need a 338 Lapua or 50 BMG to kill whitetail deer.
Great post. You should think on this one a bit more.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:33 am to
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You think I just woke up one day and started bow hunting? Turn your troll off. You're much better that way.
I don't know which is why I asked.

My story is true, not trolling.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:46 am to
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I don't know which is why I asked.
Come on, man! The snark level was high.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:12 am to
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Come on, man! The snark level was high.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:39 am to
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Waiting for the significant limitations


Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation for some people.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:49 am to
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Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation for some people.



I'm still scratching my head at a guy taking a 150 yd shot on a running deer. The only people (I've seen) who do that around here are a-hole dog runners using buckshot who'll shoot at anything that moves. Trucks, other hunters, you name it.

To each his own, but unless my family literally needs food on the table I'm not shooting 150 yards at a running deer, especially with a rifle. That's just irresponsible IMO.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:18 am to
Found another bag of troll food

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Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation


Or accidentally making a bad shot as people (not me of course) often do.

But yea, it is definitely a massive limitation. If I see a deer I want to kill and it isn't cooperating, I want to get it anyway.

Shots that are unethical with the .243 are not unethical bigger calibers. I can shoot a deer at any angle with a .30-06 and premium 180gr bullets and know that I will reach the vitals, break bones if they're in the way, and get an exit. You absolutely cannot do that with a .243 with any load. It is not going to reliably exit and if you don't get a bang-flop youll be doing work and maybe calling the dog.

This aint hard. You can get more horsepower (and therfore better results when the stars don't line up) for an imperceptible increase in recoil. The .243 does nothing that a host of other calibers can't do better when it comes to deer.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:34 am to
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a bad shot as people
Your .30 cal isn't going to help you.

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it is definitely a massive limitation
What is, and what cartridges are subject to this?

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Shots that are unethical with the .243 are not unethical bigger calibers
Bull shite.

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I can shoot a deer at any angle with a .30-06 and premium 180gr bullets and know that I will reach the vitals, break bones if they're in the way, and get an exit. You absolutely cannot do that with a .243 with any load.
Name these shots.

You really should not post about bullets, cartridges or deer hunting anymore. You really have zero idea what you're talking about.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37514 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 12:22 pm to
You’re arguing with someone that thinks the 6.5 creedmoor “wounds” deer. Obviously not the sharpest pencil
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 12:26 pm to
South Carolina study on deer hunting says caliber isn't as important as shot placement.

LINK

Conclusions

Shooting percentages about 82%.
The farther the shot, the lower the chance of getting the deer.
Deer ran about 62 yards on average.
Shot placement is determining factor. All things considered, broadside shoulder shot worked best compared to others.
About 50:50, deer run vs. deer don’t run.
Trained dog expedited recovery of all deer that ran.
Dog very important in recovering 61 deer that left poor/no sign, 24 deer judged unrecoverable, and 19 live/wounded deer.
Dog accounted for approximately 15 – 20% of total harvest on hunting area, i.e. 75 – 100 deer.
No difference in effectiveness of various calibers.
No difference between factory vs. custom firearms.
Significant difference between bullet types. This study indicates that rapidly expanding bullets lead to deer running less often and less distance and when they run they leave better sign.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:47 pm to
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caliber isn't as important as shot placement


No shite
Posted by Stexas
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:53 pm to
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DownshiftAndFloorIt



I feel like you're arguing with yourself at this point
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:53 pm to
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texag7


I hunt with a 6.5x55
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:54 pm to
I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm trying to explain to some trolls why they are wrong
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81616 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:56 pm to
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I'm trying to explain to some trolls why they are wrong
So, we can add trolls to your list of things you know nothing about
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:57 pm to
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What is, and what cartridges are subject to this?



I probably said it 10 times already.

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Name these shots.



Put the deer at any angle and you can get an exit with a 180gr partiton from 50 yards to 250 yards every single time and break a leg on the way out.

Its like yall are perfectly ok not shooting a deer that does not cooperate
Posted by Stexas
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Member since May 2013
6000 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:05 pm to
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not shooting a deer that does not cooperate


If you don't have the shot don't take it... it's not hard.
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