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re: I’m seriously thinking of making a .243 AR10
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:05 am to White Bear
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:05 am to White Bear
quote:You think I just woke up one day and started bow hunting? Turn your troll off. You're much better that way.
I thought you were a bow hunter??
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:08 am to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:I was laying in bed ,on my phone, no glasses drunk with insomnia. I was just pointing out how bad your post was, and it was bad.
Wow. That's a really persuasive argument you didn't make.
quote:Ribs yes. No true bone. A rib is nothing for an arrow much less a .243 bullet. if you hit true bone, you've missed badly. People really need to pay more attention to anatomy.
There are times a bullet may need to penetrate bones (like ribs , but mainly upper leg) to get into the chest. I explained that in my post.
quote:No, you did not. Waiting for the significant limitations
I explained all that in my post.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:10 am to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:Great post. You should think on this one a bit more.
but the 30-06 penetrates adequately to be a good hunting round. One doesn't need a 338 Lapua or 50 BMG to kill whitetail deer.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:33 am to AlxTgr
quote:I don't know which is why I asked.
You think I just woke up one day and started bow hunting? Turn your troll off. You're much better that way.
My story is true, not trolling.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:46 am to White Bear
quote:Come on, man! The snark level was high.
I don't know which is why I asked.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:12 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Come on, man! The snark level was high.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:39 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Waiting for the significant limitations
Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation for some people.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:49 am to DeoreDX
quote:
Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation for some people.
I'm still scratching my head at a guy taking a 150 yd shot on a running deer. The only people (I've seen) who do that around here are a-hole dog runners using buckshot who'll shoot at anything that moves. Trucks, other hunters, you name it.
To each his own, but unless my family literally needs food on the table I'm not shooting 150 yards at a running deer, especially with a rifle. That's just irresponsible IMO.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:18 am to DeoreDX
Found another bag of troll food
Or accidentally making a bad shot as people (not me of course) often do.
But yea, it is definitely a massive limitation. If I see a deer I want to kill and it isn't cooperating, I want to get it anyway.
Shots that are unethical with the .243 are not unethical bigger calibers. I can shoot a deer at any angle with a .30-06 and premium 180gr bullets and know that I will reach the vitals, break bones if they're in the way, and get an exit. You absolutely cannot do that with a .243 with any load. It is not going to reliably exit and if you don't get a bang-flop youll be doing work and maybe calling the dog.
This aint hard. You can get more horsepower (and therfore better results when the stars don't line up) for an imperceptible increase in recoil. The .243 does nothing that a host of other calibers can't do better when it comes to deer.
quote:
Not being able to take a shitty shot is apparently a significant limitation
Or accidentally making a bad shot as people (not me of course) often do.
But yea, it is definitely a massive limitation. If I see a deer I want to kill and it isn't cooperating, I want to get it anyway.
Shots that are unethical with the .243 are not unethical bigger calibers. I can shoot a deer at any angle with a .30-06 and premium 180gr bullets and know that I will reach the vitals, break bones if they're in the way, and get an exit. You absolutely cannot do that with a .243 with any load. It is not going to reliably exit and if you don't get a bang-flop youll be doing work and maybe calling the dog.
This aint hard. You can get more horsepower (and therfore better results when the stars don't line up) for an imperceptible increase in recoil. The .243 does nothing that a host of other calibers can't do better when it comes to deer.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:34 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Your .30 cal isn't going to help you.
a bad shot as people
quote:What is, and what cartridges are subject to this?
it is definitely a massive limitation
quote:Bull shite.
Shots that are unethical with the .243 are not unethical bigger calibers
quote:Name these shots.
I can shoot a deer at any angle with a .30-06 and premium 180gr bullets and know that I will reach the vitals, break bones if they're in the way, and get an exit. You absolutely cannot do that with a .243 with any load.
You really should not post about bullets, cartridges or deer hunting anymore. You really have zero idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 12:22 pm to AlxTgr
You’re arguing with someone that thinks the 6.5 creedmoor “wounds” deer. Obviously not the sharpest pencil
Posted on 10/28/20 at 12:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
South Carolina study on deer hunting says caliber isn't as important as shot placement.
LINK
Conclusions
Shooting percentages about 82%.
The farther the shot, the lower the chance of getting the deer.
Deer ran about 62 yards on average.
Shot placement is determining factor. All things considered, broadside shoulder shot worked best compared to others.
About 50:50, deer run vs. deer don’t run.
Trained dog expedited recovery of all deer that ran.
Dog very important in recovering 61 deer that left poor/no sign, 24 deer judged unrecoverable, and 19 live/wounded deer.
Dog accounted for approximately 15 – 20% of total harvest on hunting area, i.e. 75 – 100 deer.
No difference in effectiveness of various calibers.
No difference between factory vs. custom firearms.
Significant difference between bullet types. This study indicates that rapidly expanding bullets lead to deer running less often and less distance and when they run they leave better sign.
LINK
Conclusions
Shooting percentages about 82%.
The farther the shot, the lower the chance of getting the deer.
Deer ran about 62 yards on average.
Shot placement is determining factor. All things considered, broadside shoulder shot worked best compared to others.
About 50:50, deer run vs. deer don’t run.
Trained dog expedited recovery of all deer that ran.
Dog very important in recovering 61 deer that left poor/no sign, 24 deer judged unrecoverable, and 19 live/wounded deer.
Dog accounted for approximately 15 – 20% of total harvest on hunting area, i.e. 75 – 100 deer.
No difference in effectiveness of various calibers.
No difference between factory vs. custom firearms.
Significant difference between bullet types. This study indicates that rapidly expanding bullets lead to deer running less often and less distance and when they run they leave better sign.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:47 pm to DeoreDX
quote:
caliber isn't as important as shot placement
No shite
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
DownshiftAndFloorIt
I feel like you're arguing with yourself at this point
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:53 pm to texag7
quote:
texag7
I hunt with a 6.5x55
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:54 pm to Stexas
I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm trying to explain to some trolls why they are wrong
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:56 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:So, we can add trolls to your list of things you know nothing about
I'm trying to explain to some trolls why they are wrong
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:57 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
What is, and what cartridges are subject to this?
I probably said it 10 times already.
quote:
Name these shots.
Put the deer at any angle and you can get an exit with a 180gr partiton from 50 yards to 250 yards every single time and break a leg on the way out.
Its like yall are perfectly ok not shooting a deer that does not cooperate
Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:05 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
not shooting a deer that does not cooperate
If you don't have the shot don't take it... it's not hard.
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