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re: I saw something disgusting from a hunter today
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
quote:
stop yapping about it cause you're making outdoorsmen appear bitchy.
If you don't like it, here's the door:
Don't let it hit you on the arse on your way out.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:34 am to Chad504boy
I have thought about it and have openly expressed my opinion in writing.
So have others.
Good for us.
So have others.
Good for us.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:35 am to Jimbo21165
quote:
Turning a blind eye is implied consent.
no its not. we aren't under any obligation to go yapping to every person you see throw a cigarette butt out the window. Just cause you don't publicly show your disgust and opposition doesn't make you a consenter to littering.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:36 am to Jimbo21165
I disagree with that.
People speed all the time and I do not call the police.
I am certainly not consenting to speeding though.
Speed kills.
People speed all the time and I do not call the police.
I am certainly not consenting to speeding though.
Speed kills.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:36 am to HollyWoodCole
quote:
Unless you are a game warden, you have no authority to tell people they are being a-holes.
It's an ethics issue, so even a game warden doesn't have authority to do anything about it. Ethics issues are on the community. If something is unethical, it's on the community to call it out. That's the only way anything changes.
That's what our opponents are arguing right now. Hunting is unethical in their eyes, and should be banned.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:38 am to Cowboyfan89
Ethics and morality lie within us.
We can't invoke the same things that we live by on others.
It just doesn't work that way nor will it matter.
Raise your kids, not your neighbors.
We can't invoke the same things that we live by on others.
It just doesn't work that way nor will it matter.
Raise your kids, not your neighbors.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:39 am to HollyWoodCole
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People speed all the time and I do not call the police.
One problem with this: speed limits are legally set. Gut shooting a hog and allowing it to have a drawn out death is an ethical matter.
Besides, that's an asinine comparison. What cop is going to write a ticket because you said someone was speeding? It's not the same.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:40 am to Cowboyfan89
Ethical is subjective
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:41 am to Cowboyfan89
Those are your ethics about shooting.
Not everyone else.
You don't get to make the rules about shooting anything.
Not everyone else.
You don't get to make the rules about shooting anything.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:42 am to HollyWoodCole
quote:
Ethics and morality lie within us.
We can't invoke the same things that we live by on others.
Couldn't disagree more with that. You aren't born ethical. You are taught what is and isn't ethical.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:43 am to Cowboyfan89
There's people that will die for their opinion that shooting deer period is unethical
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:43 am to Cowboyfan89
Of course I was taught that way.
You can't teach everyone though.
You can't teach everyone though.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:54 am to Cowboyfan89
I was in Gilroy CA this past weekend on a pheasant hunt.
Private club.
Lead shot was used by all.
CA are weirdos about everything environmental (see plastic shopping bag ban).
Some things just don't make sense.
Who am I to try and stop the nonsense?
Private club.
Lead shot was used by all.
CA are weirdos about everything environmental (see plastic shopping bag ban).
Some things just don't make sense.
Who am I to try and stop the nonsense?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:55 am to Chad504boy
quote:
OP has openly admitted to wounding animals with his negligent shots already and just blamed the ole 'happens to anybody' theory.
if you can't see the difference in what i did with purposefully wounding an animal and boasting about it online then something is wrong with you.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:57 am to celltech1981
It's just a coyote man.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:58 am to celltech1981
Don't worry about Chad, people here know something is wrong with his/her posts.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:10 pm to celltech1981
All acts of negligence
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:18 pm to HollyWoodCole
quote:
Who am I to try and stop the nonsense?
Sounds more like you just don't want to piss off some rich guys by calling them out. But again, that is actually a legal matter, not an ethical one.
Hell, earlier this year, I was out scouting a public field for doves the morning of the opener. In Louisiana, public fields do not open until noon on opening day. Five guys were obviously walking out to hunt, with guns and ammo, the whole 9 yards. I flagged the guys down and let them know before they made a mistake they very likely would have regretted.
But I guess by your logic, I should have just minded my own business and let those guys get in trouble? Again, a legal, not ethical matter, but it's no different than your private club example.
Also, chadboy must not know what "negligence" is. A guy purposely shooting a yote in the gut is not negligence. A guy failing to adequately sight in a rifle is.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:36 pm to Cowboyfan89
Lead shot is more of an ethical problem to me than a legal problem.
Lead, being a heavy metal, is a drastic thing to the ecosystem. Along with cadmium and arsenic and all of the other heavy metals found in the soil and air caused by humanity.
But again, my ethics aren't king.
Lead, being a heavy metal, is a drastic thing to the ecosystem. Along with cadmium and arsenic and all of the other heavy metals found in the soil and air caused by humanity.
But again, my ethics aren't king.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:44 pm to Cowboyfan89
Also, I'm not too big on hunting public land because of the idiots who abound.
I choose not to get shot so I distance myself away.
Sherburne WMA is an incredible asset to LA.
But it is chock full of idiots. The gun range has grown into incompetence.
I don't go anymore because of that.
My choice. My distance.
I can ping ping ping all day at the Sheriff patrolled range in Gonzales LA when I feel the need.
My M21 ain't gonna shoot itself.
I choose not to get shot so I distance myself away.
Sherburne WMA is an incredible asset to LA.
But it is chock full of idiots. The gun range has grown into incompetence.
I don't go anymore because of that.
My choice. My distance.
I can ping ping ping all day at the Sheriff patrolled range in Gonzales LA when I feel the need.
My M21 ain't gonna shoot itself.
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